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From: "Cousson, Benoit" <b-cousson@ti.com>
To: "Valkeinen, Tomi" <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>
Cc: "Hilman, Kevin" <khilman@ti.com>,
	"linux-omap@vger.kernel.org" <linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"paul@pwsan.com" <paul@pwsan.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 19/27] OMAP: DSS2: Use PM runtime & HWMOD support
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 13:46:34 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DECDA3A.7080808@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1307366474.1910.44.camel@deskari>

On 6/6/2011 3:21 PM, Valkeinen, Tomi wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 15:15 +0200, Cousson, Benoit wrote:
>> On 6/6/2011 3:01 PM, Valkeinen, Tomi wrote:
>>> On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 14:56 +0200, Cousson, Benoit wrote:
>
>>> In this long term solution, if the dss_fclk is the main_clk, how does
>>> the framework handle the situation when we want to switch from the
>>> standard DSS fclk to the one from DSI PLL?
>>
>> That part cannot be done by the hwmod fmwk anyway. The goal of the fmwk
>> is to ensure that the module is accessible by the driver whatever the
>> PRCM clock used.
>> Enabling the DSI PLL will require the PRCM clock to be enabled first.
>>
>> Using the DSI PLL as the fclk is doable, but is it really useful or needed?
>
> Yes, it's useful and needed. It gives us much finer control to the clock
> frequencies, and so allows us to go to higher frequencies and also more
> exactly to the required pixel clock.
>
>> Assuming you need that mode, you will always have to explicitly switch
>> from DSI to PRCM clock before trying to disable the DSS.
>> This is something you will have to do inside the DSS driver. It should
>> be transparent to the hwmod fmwk.
>
> This sounds ok.
>
> I think the main question is how do we disable the standard DSS fclk
> from PRCM when using DSI PLL? As far as I know, disabling that clock
> will allow some areas of OMAP to be shut down even while DSS is working.
> So from power management point of view it sounds a needed feature.

Yes, at least in theory, but considering that any use case that will 
require the DSI PLL will use a LCD panel + backlight, or an OLED panel 
that will consume 50 times more than the 186 MHz clock, I do not think 
it is really needed.
Moreover, that clock is generated by the PER DPLL that will be always 
enabled in most usecase because it does generate the UART, I2C and most 
basic peripherals clocks. If we cannot gate the PER DPLL, there is no 
saving to expect from gating the DSS fclk only.
Bottom-line is that there is no practical power saving to expect from 
that mode.

> If the clock is main_clk for the HWMOD, it sounds to me it's always
> enabled if the HWMOD is enabled?

Yes, but that sounds to me a good trade off to avoid unnecessary 
complexity in your driver or in the hwmod fmwk.

Regards,
Benoit

  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-06 13:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-03 10:00 [PATCH 00/27] OMAP DSS runtime PM adaptation Tomi Valkeinen
2011-06-03 10:00 ` [PATCH 01/27] OMAP: change get_context_loss_count ret value to int Tomi Valkeinen
2011-06-03 16:32   ` Kevin Hilman
2011-06-06  7:28     ` [PATCH 01/27] OMAP: change get_context_loss_count ret value to Tomi Valkeinen
2011-06-03 10:00 ` [PATCH 02/27] OMAP: DSS2: Taal: Make driver more fault tolerant Tomi Valkeinen
2011-06-03 10:00 ` [PATCH 03/27] OMAP: DSS2: Reset LANEx_ULPS_SIG2 bits after use Tomi Valkeinen
2011-06-06  5:53   ` Archit Taneja
2011-06-06  7:21     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2011-06-03 10:00 ` [PATCH 04/27] OMAP: DSS2: Handle dpll4_m4_ck in dss_get/put_clocks Tomi Valkeinen
2011-06-03 10:00 ` [PATCH 05/27] OMAP: DSS2: Clean up probe for DSS & DSI Tomi Valkeinen
2011-06-03 10:00 ` [PATCH 06/27] OMAP: DSS2: Init dispc first before other components Tomi Valkeinen
2011-06-03 10:00 ` [PATCH 07/27] OMAP: DSS2: Remove clk optimization at dss init Tomi Valkeinen
2011-06-03 10:00 ` [PATCH 08/27] OMAP: DSS2: rewrite use of context_loss_count Tomi Valkeinen
2011-06-03 10:00 ` [PATCH 09/27] OMAP: DSS2: Use omap_pm_get_dev_context_loss_count to get ctx loss count Tomi Valkeinen
2011-06-03 10:00 ` [PATCH 10/27] OMAP: DSS2: DPI: remove unneeded SYSCK enable/disable Tomi Valkeinen
2011-06-03 10:00 ` [PATCH 11/27] OMAP: DSS2: Add FEAT_VENC_REQUIRES_TV_DAC_CLK Tomi Valkeinen
2011-06-03 10:00 ` [PATCH 12/27] OMAP: DSS2: Add new FEAT definitions for features missing from OMAP2 Tomi Valkeinen
2011-06-03 10:00 ` [PATCH 13/27] OMAP: DSS2: Remove core_dump_clocks Tomi Valkeinen
2011-06-03 10:00 ` [PATCH 14/27] OMAP: DSS2: Remove CONFIG_OMAP2_DSS_SLEEP_BEFORE_RESET Tomi Valkeinen
2011-06-03 10:00 ` [PATCH 15/27] OMAP4: HWMOD: Modify DSS opt clocks Tomi Valkeinen
2011-06-03 10:00 ` [PATCH 16/27] OMAP3: HWMOD: Add " Tomi Valkeinen
2011-06-03 10:00 ` [PATCH 17/27] OMAP2420: " Tomi Valkeinen
2011-06-03 10:00 ` [PATCH 18/27] OMAP2430: " Tomi Valkeinen
2011-06-03 10:00 ` [PATCH 19/27] OMAP: DSS2: Use PM runtime & HWMOD support Tomi Valkeinen
2011-06-03 16:45   ` Kevin Hilman
2011-06-03 17:43     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2011-06-03 22:53       ` Kevin Hilman
2011-06-04  8:01         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2011-06-06 12:56           ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-06-06 13:01             ` Tomi Valkeinen
2011-06-06 13:15               ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-06-06 13:21                 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2011-06-06 13:46                   ` Cousson, Benoit [this message]
2011-06-06 13:55                     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2011-06-06 15:28                       ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-06-07  6:52                         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2011-06-07  9:08                           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2011-06-07 11:37                           ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-06-07 11:51                             ` Tomi Valkeinen
2011-06-07 16:43                               ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-06-08  7:55                                 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2011-06-08 20:39                                   ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-06-07  6:47             ` Tomi Valkeinen
2011-06-07  7:12               ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-06-07  7:21                 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2011-06-07  7:27                   ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-06-03 10:00 ` [PATCH 20/27] OMAP4: HWMOD: Remove unneeded DSS opt clocks Tomi Valkeinen
2011-06-03 10:00 ` [PATCH 21/27] OMAP: DSS2: Remove unused opt_clock_available Tomi Valkeinen
2011-06-03 10:00 ` [PATCH 22/27] OMAP: DSS2: DISPC: remove finegrained clk enables/disables Tomi Valkeinen
2011-06-03 10:00 ` [PATCH 23/27] OMAP: DSS2: Remove unused code from display.c Tomi Valkeinen
2011-06-03 10:00 ` [PATCH 24/27] OMAP: DSS2: Remove ctx loss count from dss.c Tomi Valkeinen
2011-06-03 10:00 ` [PATCH 25/27] OMAP4: CLKDEV: Remove omapdss clock aliases Tomi Valkeinen
2011-06-03 10:00 ` [PATCH 26/27] OMAP: DSS2: DISPC: Fix context save/restore Tomi Valkeinen
2011-06-03 10:00 ` [PATCH 27/27] OMAP: DSS2: DSS: " Tomi Valkeinen

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