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From: Alex Courbot <acourbot@nvidia.com>
To: Mitch Bradley <wmb@firmworks.com>
Cc: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@avionic-design.de>,
	"linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren@nvidia.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Rob Herring <rob.herring@calxeda.com>,
	"linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org" <linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org"
	<devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v3 1/3] runtime interpreted power sequences
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 01:47:39 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50188ABB.2060304@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5017D5C9.3070905@firmworks.com>

On 07/31/2012 09:55 PM, Mitch Bradley wrote:
> On 7/31/2012 8:38 PM, Thierry Reding wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 08:22:17PM +0800, Mitch Bradley wrote:
>>> On 7/31/2012 6:56 PM, Thierry Reding wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 07:32:20PM +0900, Alex Courbot wrote:
>>>>> On 07/31/2012 07:45 AM, Stephen Warren wrote:
>>>>>> I wonder if using the same structure/array as input and output would
>>>>>> simplify the API; the platform data would fill in the fields mentioned
>>>>>> above, and power_seq_build() would parse those, then set other fields in
>>>>>> the same structs to the looked-up handle values?
>>>>>
>>>>> The thing is that I am not sure what happens to the platform data
>>>>> once probe() is done. Isn't it customary to mark it with __devinit
>>>>> and have it freed after probing is successful?
>>>>
>>>> No, platform data should stay around forever. Otherwise, consider what
>>>> would happen if your driver is built as a module and you unload and load
>>>> it again.
>>>>
>>>>> More generally, I think it is a good practice to have data
>>>>> structures tailored right for what they need to do - code with
>>>>> members that are meaningful only at given points of an instance's
>>>>> life tends to be more confusing.
>>>>
>>>> I agree. Furthermore the driver unload/reload would be another reason
>>>> not to reuse platform data as the output of the build() function.
>>>>
>>>> But maybe what Stephen meant was more like filling a structure with data
>>>> taken from the platform data and pass that to a resolve() function which
>>>> would fill in the missing pieces like pointers to actual resources. I
>>>> imagine a managed interface would become a little trickier to do using
>>>> such an approach.
>>>>
>>>>>> If the nodes have a unit address (i.e. end in "@n"), which they will
>>>>>> have to if all named "step" and there's more than one of them, then they
>>>>>> will need a matching reg property. Equally, the parent node will need
>>>>>> #address-cells and #size-cells too. So, the last couple lines would be:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 		power-on-sequence {
>>>>>> 			#address-cells = <1>;
>>>>>> 			#size-cells = <0>;
>>>>>> 			step@0 {
>>>>>> 				reg = <0>;
>>>>>
>>>>> That's precisely what I would like to avoid - I don't need the steps
>>>>> to be numbered and I certainly have no use for a reg property. Isn't
>>>>> there a way to make it simpler?
>>>>
>>>> It's not technically valid to not have the reg property. Or
>>>> #address-cells and #size-cells properties for that matter.
>>>
>>> I'm not keen on this representation where individual steps are nodes.
>>> That seems like it could end up being too "heavyweight" for a long sequence.
>>
>> The other alternative would involve using a single property to encode
>> one sequence. I think that was the initial proposal, though using proper
>> phandle encoding it could probably be enhanced a bit. However anything
>> that involves a single property has the problem that we need to encode
>> the type of resource as an integer, and that makes things very hard to
>> read.
>>
>> So it would look something like this:
>>
>> 	power-on = <1  &gpio 6 0            1
>> 		    0                   10000
>> 		    2  &reg                 1
>> 		    3  &pwm  0 5000000      1>;
>>
>> 	power-off = <3  &pwm  0 5000000      0
>> 		     2  &reg                 0
>> 		     0                   10000
>> 		     1  &gpio 6 0            0>;
>>
>> So the first cell would encode the type:
>>    0: delay
>>    1: gpio
>>    2: regulator
>>    3: PWM
>>
>> The next n cells would be the phandle and the specifier, while the last
>> cell would encode a resource-specific parameter:
>>    delay: time in microseconds
>>    gpio: set level (0: low, 1: high)
>>    regulator: 0: disable, 1: enable
>>    pwm: 0: disable, 1: enable
>>
>> I guess this would be more compact, but it is also very hard to read. Is
>> that something you would be happier with? Perhaps you were thinking of
>> something completely different?
>
>
> Perhaps a compact/flexible encoding could be designed, with a textual
> encoding that is easy to read.  A separate tool could convert the text
> encoding to the integer format, annotated with comments containing
> the "source text".  A file containing that output could be #included
> into the dts file.

Do you mean having a external compiler that would run before dtc just 
for producing the power sequences? That sounds a little bit overkill for 
something that ough to remain simple.

Also, although I admit I don't have the whole picture of where they 
could be used, I don't expect the power sequences to grow to sizes that 
would make us bother about their footprint.

Alex.


  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-01  1:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-27 12:05 [RFC][PATCH v3 0/3] Power sequences with PWM and DT support Alexandre Courbot
2012-07-27 12:05 ` [RFC][PATCH v3 1/3] runtime interpreted power sequences Alexandre Courbot
     [not found]   ` <1343390750-3642-2-git-send-email-acourbot-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-27 18:19     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
     [not found]       ` <20120727181923.GB23564-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-30  1:51         ` Alex Courbot
2012-07-30  2:40           ` Gethering power management/policy hw drivers under drivers/power/? (Re: [RFC][PATCH v3 1/3] runtime Anton Vorontsov
2012-07-30  3:04             ` Gethering power management/policy hw drivers under drivers/power/? (Re: [RFC][PATCH v3 1/3] runt 함명주
2012-07-30 20:59             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]               ` <201207302259.39396.rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-01  0:51                 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-08-06  8:45             ` Pihet-XID, Jean
2012-07-27 18:20     ` [RFC][PATCH v3 1/3] runtime interpreted power sequences Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-07-30 11:00     ` Simon Glass
2012-07-31  8:37       ` Alex Courbot
     [not found]         ` <50179933.9090501-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-31  9:13           ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]             ` <20120731091324.GA15557-RM9K5IK7kjIyiCvfTdI0JKcOhU4Rzj621B7CTYaBSLdn68oJJulU0Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-31 10:11               ` Alex Courbot
     [not found]                 ` <5017AF5D.2010204-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-31 10:46                   ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31 14:23         ` Mark Brown
2012-07-30 11:33     ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31  9:51       ` Alex Courbot
     [not found]         ` <5017AA87.2040503-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-31 10:19           ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]             ` <20120731101931.GB16155-RM9K5IK7kjIyiCvfTdI0JKcOhU4Rzj621B7CTYaBSLdn68oJJulU0Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-01  2:50               ` Alex Courbot
     [not found]                 ` <5018997B.7010808-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-01  7:17                   ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31 14:11         ` Mark Brown
2012-07-30 15:44     ` Rob Herring
     [not found]       ` <5016ABDD.5010809-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-30 15:47         ` Mark Brown
     [not found]           ` <20120730154706.GL4468-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-31  9:16             ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-30 22:26         ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]           ` <50170A14.6000201-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-31 10:15             ` Alex Courbot
2012-07-30 22:45     ` Stephen Warren
2012-07-31 10:32       ` Alex Courbot
     [not found]         ` <5017B434.2010706-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-31 10:56           ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]             ` <20120731105640.GD16155-RM9K5IK7kjIyiCvfTdI0JKcOhU4Rzj621B7CTYaBSLdn68oJJulU0Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-31 12:22               ` Mitch Bradley
     [not found]                 ` <5017CDF9.2060304-D5eQfiDGL7eakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-31 12:38                   ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                     ` <20120731123811.GA25855-RM9K5IK7kjIyiCvfTdI0JKcOhU4Rzj621B7CTYaBSLdn68oJJulU0Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-31 12:55                       ` Mitch Bradley
2012-08-01  1:47                         ` Alex Courbot [this message]
     [not found]                           ` <50188ABB.2060304-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-01  2:15                             ` Mitch Bradley
2012-08-01  1:42                   ` Alex Courbot
2012-07-31 14:13               ` Mark Brown
2012-07-31 14:22                 ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31 14:26                   ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                     ` <20120731142607.GV4468-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-31 14:32                       ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                         ` <20120731143235.GA21126-RM9K5IK7kjIyiCvfTdI0JKcOhU4Rzj621B7CTYaBSLdn68oJJulU0Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-31 15:39                           ` Mark Brown
2012-07-31 16:19                             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
     [not found]                               ` <20120731161954.GB4941-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-31 16:22                                 ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                                   ` <20120731162230.GE11892-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-31 16:42                                     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-07-31 16:50                                       ` Mark Brown
2012-08-01  7:41                             ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                               ` <20120801074113.GF29673-RM9K5IK7kjIyiCvfTdI0JKcOhU4Rzj621B7CTYaBSLdn68oJJulU0Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-01 13:26                                 ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                                   ` <20120801132651.GU11892-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-01 13:38                                     ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                                       ` <20120801133814.GA19771-RM9K5IK7kjIyiCvfTdI0JKcOhU4Rzj621B7CTYaBSLdn68oJJulU0Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-01 13:55                                         ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                                           ` <20120801135531.GW11892-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-01 14:01                                             ` Thierry Reding
2012-07-31 16:34         ` Stephen Warren
2012-08-02  8:00       ` Alex Courbot
     [not found]         ` <501A338D.7080105-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-02  8:21           ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]             ` <20120802082157.GA14866-RM9K5IK7kjIyiCvfTdI0JKcOhU4Rzj621B7CTYaBSLdn68oJJulU0Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-02  8:27               ` Alex Courbot
2012-08-02  8:45                 ` Thierry Reding
2012-08-02  9:20                   ` Alex Courbot
2012-08-02 18:11             ` Mark Brown
     [not found]               ` <20120802181111.GM4537-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-03  1:15                 ` Alex Courbot
     [not found]                   ` <501B2642.4080805-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-04 14:12                     ` Mark Brown
2012-08-06  2:27                       ` Alex Courbot
     [not found]                         ` <501F2BAA.8000808-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-06 16:16                           ` Stephen Warren
2012-08-07  5:10                             ` Alex Courbot
     [not found] ` <1343390750-3642-1-git-send-email-acourbot-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-27 12:05   ` [RFC][PATCH v3 2/3] pwm_backlight: use " Alexandre Courbot
2012-07-27 12:05   ` [RFC][PATCH v3 3/3] tegra: add pwm backlight device tree nodes Alexandre Courbot

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