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From: Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>
To: Laurent Pinchart
	<laurent.pinchart-ryLnwIuWjnjg/C1BVhZhaw@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Thierry Reding
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	Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>,
	Dave Airlie <airlied-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Laurent Pinchart
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	Rob Herring <rob.herring-bsGFqQB8/DxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
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	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	Ian Campbell
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	Linux Fbdev development list
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Subject: Re: [RFR 2/2] drm/panel: Add simple panel support
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 22:06:18 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <526999DA.7080409@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3278905.VOXO7bPE7e@avalon>

On 10/24/2013 12:20 PM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> Hi Stephen,
> 
> On Sunday 20 October 2013 23:07:36 Stephen Warren wrote:
>> On 10/17/2013 12:07 PM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
>> ...
>>
>>>> As I said, anything that really needs a CDF binding to work
>>>> likely isn't "simple" anymore, therefore a separate driver can
>>>> easily be justified.
>>>
>>> The system as a whole would be more complex, but the panel could be
>>> the same. We can't have two drivers for the same piece of hardware
>>> in the DT world, as there will be a single compatible string and no
>>> way to choose between the drivers (unlike the board code world that
>>> could set device names to "foo- encoder-v4l2" or "foo-encoder-drm"
>>> and live happily with that ever after).
>>
>> That's not true. We can certainly define two different compatible
>> values for a piece of HW if we have to. We can easily control whether
>> they are handled by the same or different drivers in the OS.
> 
> From an implementation point of view, sure. But from a conceptual point of 
> view, that would make the DT bindings pretty Linux-specific, with a 
> description of what the operating system should do instead of a description of 
> what the hardware looks like. My understanding is that we've tried pretty hard 
> in the past not to open that Pandora's box.
> 
> The case I'm mostly concerned about would be two different compatibility 
> strings to select whether the device should be handled by a KMS or V4L driver. 
> I don't think that's a good idea.

I wouldn't think of the two compatible values as selecting different
specific Linux drivers, but rather they simply describe the HW in
different levels of detail. The fact that if we know a certain level of
detail about the HW means that Linux can and does create a KMS driver
rather than a V4L2 driver seems like a detail that's completely hidden
inside the OS.


  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-24 22:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-16 18:25 [RFR 0/2] DRM display panel support Thierry Reding
     [not found] ` <1381947912-11741-1-git-send-email-treding-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-16 18:25   ` [RFR 1/2] drm: Add " Thierry Reding
2013-10-16 18:25   ` [RFR 2/2] drm/panel: Add simple " Thierry Reding
     [not found]     ` <1381947912-11741-3-git-send-email-treding-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-17  0:47       ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-17  8:28         ` Dave Airlie
     [not found]           ` <CAPM=9tzU36cwcM0pH0J_Vgc6UOj5MHdVNDvn3wpGNuihbMqdQQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-17  8:49             ` Tomi Valkeinen
     [not found]               ` <525FA4B0.8060504-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-17  9:16                 ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                   ` <20131017091614.GC2502-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-17  9:52                     ` Tomi Valkeinen
     [not found]                       ` <525FB368.6020003-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-17 10:48                         ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                           ` <20131017104856.GA10993-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-17 11:07                             ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-20 22:07                               ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                                 ` <52645428.9080607-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-24 11:20                                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-24 22:06                                     ` Stephen Warren [this message]
     [not found]                                       ` <526999DA.7080409-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-25  8:13                                         ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                                           ` <20131025081314.GC19622-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-25 13:47                                             ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-25 14:10                                               ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                                                 ` <20131025141029.GD1551-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-25 14:22                                                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-25 11:33                                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-25 12:29                                           ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                                             ` <20131025122925.GA24720-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-25 13:49                                               ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-25 15:29                                           ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-17 11:21                             ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-10-20 22:01                 ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-17  8:53         ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]           ` <20131017085342.GB2502-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-17 10:22             ` Tomi Valkeinen
     [not found]               ` <525FBA5D.9000001-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-17 11:05                 ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                   ` <20131017110517.GC10993-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-17 11:15                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-17 12:06                       ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                         ` <20131017120646.GE10993-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-17 12:23                           ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-17 12:55                             ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-17 11:50                     ` Tomi Valkeinen
     [not found]                       ` <525FCF07.6070006-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-17 12:12                         ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-17 11:02             ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-17 11:35               ` Tomi Valkeinen
     [not found]                 ` <525FCB95.6070401-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-17 11:51                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-17 11:59                     ` Tomi Valkeinen
     [not found]                       ` <525FD12D.3000200-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-17 12:17                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-17 12:32                           ` Tomi Valkeinen
     [not found]                             ` <525FD8DD.3090509-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-20 19:29                               ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-10-24 10:40                             ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-24 10:52                               ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-10-25 10:54                                 ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2013-10-17 11:41               ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                 ` <20131017114139.GD10993-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-17 12:14                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-17 12:46                     ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                       ` <20131017124619.GG10993-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-24 11:05                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-24 11:48                           ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                             ` <20131024114823.GC11296-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-25 11:27                               ` Laurent Pinchart

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