From: "Noralf Trønnes" <noralf@tronnes.org>
To: Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen@gmail.com>
Cc: Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>,
Javier Martinez Canillas <javierm@redhat.com>,
linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org, David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
Emil Velikov <emil.l.velikov@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
Maxime Ripard <maxime@cerno.tech>,
Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] drm: Add I2C connector type
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2022 17:00:05 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7eb83dae-7dd9-1ffc-93ce-b47429ec510b@tronnes.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220202170455.3eece5a3@eldfell>
Den 02.02.2022 16.04, skrev Pekka Paalanen:
> On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 10:45:42 +0100
> Noralf Trønnes <noralf@tronnes.org> wrote:
>
>> Den 02.02.2022 10.14, skrev Thomas Zimmermann:
>>> Hi Noralf,
>>>
>>> since you're here, I'll just hijack the discussion to ask something only
>>> semi-related.
>>>
>>> IIRC the gud driver doesn't update the display immediately during atomic
>>> commits. Instead, it instructs a helper thread to do the update. What's
>>> the rational behind this design? Is that something we should adopt for
>>> other drivers that operate over slow buses (USB, I2C, etc)? Would this
>>> be relevant for the ssd1307 driver?
>>>
>>
>> Async flushing is only necessary on multi display setups where there's
>> only one rendering loop for all the displays. I saw what tiny/gm12u320.c
>> did and Hans gave me the rationale. The SPI drivers run flushing inline.
>> Info on the gud wiki:
>> https://github.com/notro/gud/wiki/Linux-Host-Driver#asynchronous-flushing
>
> Hi,
>
> please also consider that userspace may throttle to the KMS pageflip
> events. If the pageflip event is immediate from submitting a flip, that
> could mean userspace will be repainting in a busy-loop, like 1 kHz.
> However, I remember something about virtual KMS drivers doing exactly
> this, and there being something that tells userspace to throttle itself
> instead of depending on pageflip completions. I just forget how that is
> supposed to work, and I'm fairly sure that e.g. Weston does not behave
> well there.
>
> Unfortunately, the pageflip event is also what synchronises FB usage.
> Once flipping in a new FB completed, the old FB is free for re-use.
> But, if the kernel is still copying out from the old FB, userspace may
> partially overwrite the contents, temporarily leading to an incomplete
> or too new image on screen. Do you have anything to prevent that?
>
Unfortunately not. One solution would be to make a buffer copy during
the flip and do the USB transfer async but I haven't looked into that.
My plan is to wait and see what problems users report back before trying
to fix anything.
Noralf.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-02-02 16:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-01-31 20:12 [PATCH 0/4] drm/tiny: Add driver for Solomon SSD1307 OLED displays Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-31 20:12 ` [PATCH 1/4] drm: Add I2C connector type Javier Martinez Canillas
[not found] ` <YfhMESTylI1NTKDg@ravnborg.org>
2022-01-31 23:26 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-01 12:58 ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-02-01 13:06 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-01 13:20 ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-02-01 13:55 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-01 13:38 ` Simon Ser
2022-02-01 14:20 ` Noralf Trønnes
[not found] ` <YfmeztkVXwZzAwYe@ravnborg.org>
2022-02-01 22:29 ` Simon Ser
2022-02-02 8:46 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-02 9:14 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-02 9:45 ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-02-02 15:04 ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-02-02 16:00 ` Noralf Trønnes [this message]
2022-01-31 20:12 ` [PATCH 2/4] drm/format-helper: Add drm_fb_gray8_to_mono_reversed() Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-01 9:59 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-01 11:13 ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-02-01 11:48 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-03-14 13:40 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-03-14 14:07 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-31 20:36 ` [PATCH 0/4] drm/tiny: Add driver for Solomon SSD1307 OLED displays Simon Ser
2022-01-31 20:39 ` Simon Ser
2022-01-31 23:21 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-01 8:26 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-02-01 8:34 ` Simon Ser
2022-02-01 8:36 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-02-01 10:08 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-01 10:11 ` Simon Ser
2022-02-01 10:17 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-01 8:38 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-02-01 9:49 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-01 10:42 ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-02-01 11:07 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-02-02 9:19 ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-02-02 10:55 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-02-01 8:43 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-02-01 9:27 ` Simon Ser
2022-02-01 10:36 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
[not found] ` <YfhM97cVH3+lJKg0@ravnborg.org>
2022-01-31 23:37 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-01 9:37 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-02-01 11:31 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-01 11:38 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-02-01 13:09 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-01 14:14 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-02-01 15:03 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-01 20:40 ` Sam Ravnborg
2022-02-02 8:38 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-02 11:06 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-02-02 11:39 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-02 11:50 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-02-02 11:54 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-02 12:21 ` Andy Shevchenko
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