From: Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@gmail.com>
To: "Benjamin Herrenschmidt" <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
"Michel Dänzer" <michel@daenzer.net>,
dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
"Linux Fbdev development list"
<linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
xorg@lists.freedesktop.org, "Jon Smirl" <jonsmirl@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: FB model basic issues (WAS: radeon, apertures & memory mapping)
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:29:22 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9e47339105031506292b1976b0@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050315140005.GB16051@sci.fi>
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:00:05 +0200, Ville Syrjälä <syrjala@sci.fi> wrote:
> DirectFB has it's own asbitration mechanism. It doesn't support using
> multiple framebuffer devices at the same time. For that to work DirectFB
> would just have to know if some of the framebuffer devices are actually
> different outputs of the same card so that it could associate both with
> the same lock and accelerator state.
>
> With the current system I don't see much chance of using accelerated fbcon
> on one head and accelerated DirectFB (or something else) on the other.
It looks to be like there needs to be new rules for framebuffer
access. X needs to change, why can't DirectFB change too? This is why
we have so much conflict in graphics. Everyone thinks they completely
own the hardware and can do whatever they want with it. It's obvious
to me, if we add universal aribtration everyone has to change and
follow the new rules.
Aonther approach would be to just say you have to choose to run one of
X, DirectFB, FBUI, XGL and you can't switch between them. Other than
developers I don't know if anyone really runs more than one of these
at a time.
Here's another one:
http://home.comcast.net/~plinius/fbui.html
--
Jon Smirl
jonsmirl@gmail.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-03-15 14:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-03-13 1:35 radeon, apertures & memory mapping Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-13 3:22 ` Jon Smirl
2005-03-13 6:43 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-13 16:22 ` Jon Smirl
2005-03-14 4:28 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Michel Dänzer
2005-03-14 7:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-14 16:20 ` Michel Dänzer
2005-03-14 21:52 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-14 22:12 ` Michel Dänzer
2005-03-14 22:37 ` FB model basic issues (WAS: radeon, apertures & memory mapping) Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-15 4:59 ` Michel Dänzer
2005-03-15 5:14 ` Jon Smirl
2005-03-15 6:01 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-15 6:59 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-15 14:00 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-15 14:29 ` Jon Smirl [this message]
2005-03-15 17:25 ` Jan Gukelberger
2005-03-15 23:34 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-15 8:51 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2005-03-15 13:36 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-15 23:33 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-15 23:37 ` Antonino A. Daplas
2005-03-15 23:50 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-16 1:47 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-16 1:51 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-16 19:51 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-16 21:00 ` Michel Dänzer
2005-03-16 21:07 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-16 23:28 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-16 23:53 ` Michel Dänzer
2005-03-16 23:25 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
[not found] ` <1110929582.25201.34.camel@gaston>
2005-03-16 5:21 ` Michel Dänzer
2005-03-16 6:31 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-16 14:09 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-16 16:48 ` Adam Jackson
2005-03-16 23:20 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-15 11:30 ` Roland Scheidegger
2005-03-15 13:27 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-15 17:17 ` Michel Dänzer
2005-03-16 3:09 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-16 20:08 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-16 20:42 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Michel Dänzer
2005-03-16 23:26 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-16 23:35 ` Jon Smirl
2005-03-17 0:06 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-16 20:58 ` Alex Deucher
2005-03-16 21:08 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-16 21:17 ` Alex Deucher
2005-03-16 23:30 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-17 0:47 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-17 1:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-17 1:25 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-17 2:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-17 9:08 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2005-03-17 19:54 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-15 22:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-15 23:05 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-15 23:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-16 20:55 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-16 23:27 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-17 0:14 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-17 0:28 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-15 6:45 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-15 5:30 ` Jon Smirl
2005-03-15 6:58 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-15 21:58 ` Ian Romanick
2005-03-13 3:55 ` radeon, apertures & memory mapping Vladimir Dergachev
2005-03-13 6:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-13 8:22 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-13 9:20 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-13 10:39 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-13 12:04 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-13 16:19 ` Jon Smirl
2005-03-13 17:47 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-13 17:56 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Jon Smirl
2005-03-13 21:52 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-13 22:17 ` Jon Smirl
2005-03-13 22:41 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-13 21:51 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-13 21:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-13 22:10 ` Jon Smirl
2005-03-13 22:20 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-13 23:00 ` Jon Smirl
2005-03-13 23:11 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-13 23:27 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-13 23:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-14 0:08 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-14 0:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-14 0:25 ` Jon Smirl
2005-03-14 0:39 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-14 1:02 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-14 0:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-14 0:41 ` Paul Mackerras
2005-03-14 0:56 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-14 1:05 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-14 1:47 ` Jon Smirl
2005-03-14 3:59 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-14 4:07 ` Paul Mackerras
2005-03-14 4:40 ` Jon Smirl
2005-03-14 5:09 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-14 16:30 ` Soeren Sandmann
2005-03-14 16:40 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-14 21:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-14 16:16 ` Ville Syrjälä
2005-03-14 21:27 ` Donnie Berkholz
2005-03-14 21:51 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
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