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From: Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>
To: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 07/20] gpu: nova-core: mm: Add TLB flush support
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2026 09:47:39 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9f30b572-04be-4adc-b5f0-a286ea601996@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DHUY5IGHGE49.Z2UVYJ23KX2Y@kernel.org>



On 4/16/2026 6:53 PM, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
> On Fri Apr 17, 2026 at 12:18 AM CEST, Joel Fernandes wrote:
>> On 4/16/2026 5:45 PM, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
>>> Why do we need the try_access() dance in the first place? I assume this ends up
>>> being called from the BarAccess destructor?
>>
>> BarAccess is different. The try_access() calls here are in tlb.rs and
>> pramin.rs for Bar0.
> 
> Yes, and we shouldn't need them in the first place; we should have a
> &Device<Bound> in all call paths this is called from.
> 
>>> If so, I think this is solvable. Gary and me are currently working on
>>> higher-ranked types and a chained Devres type.
>>
>> Hmm, the issue here is we cannot hold revocable guard while sleeping, but
>> we have read the bar as a condition in the body of the poll.
> 
> No, you should just require a &Device<Bound>; or maybe we can utilize the
> mentioned higher-ranked types and DevresChain once we have it. But in any case
> you shouldn't need try_access() here.
> 
>>> With that, such use-cases should be cleanly solvable without the need for
>>> try_access().
>>>
>>> Besides that, I can't find where BarAccess is ever constructed.
>>
>> BarUser::map() constructs it.
> 
> I'm well aware, but absolutely nothing calls BarUser::map(). :)
> 
>>> It already has a lifetime 'a for &'a Bar1, so I don't see why you can't do the
>>> same for Bar0.>
>>> But again, I don't see this being constructed and I'm not sure the whole
>>> construct works in the first place.
>>
>> BarAccess uses &'a Bar1 because it's a short-lived scoped object. In long
>> lived objects I am trying to avoid this.
> 
> Don't get me wrong, if a lifetime is sufficient -- that's great! But I'm
> suspicious whether it actually is, since BarAccess is never actually constructed
> and hence I can't see how it would be used.

Actually, it is constructed in the self-test. Maybe you missed the
self-test patch?

    #[cfg(CONFIG_NOVA_MM_SELFTESTS)]
    fn run_mm_selftests(self: Pin<&mut Self>, pdev:
&pci::Device<device::Bound>) -> Result {
        // PRAMIN aperture self-tests.
        crate::mm::pramin::run_self_test(pdev.as_ref(), self.mm.pramin())?;

        // BAR1 self-tests.
        let bar1 = Arc::pin_init(pdev.iomap_region(1, c"nova-core/bar1"),
GFP_KERNEL)?;
        let bar1_access = bar1.access(pdev.as_ref())?;

        crate::mm::bar_user::run_self_test(
            pdev.as_ref(),
            &self.mm,
            bar1_access,
            self.gsp_static_info.bar1_pde_base,
            self.spec.chipset,
        )?;

        Ok(())
    }

However, you do raise a good point -- may we cannot assume that BAR1
reference is short lived. One thing though is typically BAR1 size is
limited, so we should not allow anyone to use it for long-lived usecases to
prevent filling up the small BAR1 aperture into VRAM.

The user of the bar1 code is vGPU at the moment, I am sure in the future we
will have other uses of the CPU directly accessing VRAM. Zhi, can you share
any thoughts here? Is BAR1 for vGPU expected to be held long-lived?

I agree with your points about Device<Bound> and I will explore that as well.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-21 13:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-15 21:05 [PATCH v11 01/20] gpu: nova-core: gsp: Return GspStaticInfo from boot() Joel Fernandes
2026-04-15 21:05 ` [PATCH v11 02/20] gpu: nova-core: gsp: Extract usable FB region from GSP Joel Fernandes
2026-04-16 23:04   ` John Hubbard
2026-04-16 23:26   ` John Hubbard
2026-04-21 14:55     ` Joel Fernandes
2026-04-21 20:05       ` David Airlie
2026-04-21 21:41         ` John Hubbard
2026-04-15 21:05 ` [PATCH v11 03/20] gpu: nova-core: gsp: Expose total physical VRAM end from FB region info Joel Fernandes
2026-04-15 21:05 ` [PATCH v11 04/20] gpu: nova-core: mm: Add support to use PRAMIN windows to write to VRAM Joel Fernandes
2026-04-15 21:05 ` [PATCH v11 05/20] docs: gpu: nova-core: Document the PRAMIN aperture mechanism Joel Fernandes
2026-04-15 21:05 ` [PATCH v11 06/20] gpu: nova-core: mm: Add common memory management types Joel Fernandes
2026-04-15 21:05 ` [PATCH v11 07/20] gpu: nova-core: mm: Add TLB flush support Joel Fernandes
2026-04-16 21:23   ` Joel Fernandes
2026-04-16 21:45     ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-04-16 22:18       ` Joel Fernandes
2026-04-16 22:53         ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-04-21 13:47           ` Joel Fernandes [this message]
2026-04-21 17:23             ` Joel Fernandes
2026-04-21 14:28           ` Joel Fernandes
2026-04-15 21:05 ` [PATCH v11 08/20] gpu: nova-core: mm: Add GpuMm centralized memory manager Joel Fernandes
2026-04-15 21:05 ` [PATCH v11 09/20] gpu: nova-core: mm: Add common types for all page table formats Joel Fernandes
2026-04-15 21:05 ` [PATCH v11 10/20] gpu: nova-core: mm: Add MMU v2 page table types Joel Fernandes
2026-04-15 21:05 ` [PATCH v11 11/20] gpu: nova-core: mm: Add MMU v3 " Joel Fernandes
2026-04-15 21:05 ` [PATCH v11 12/20] gpu: nova-core: mm: Add unified page table entry wrapper enums Joel Fernandes
2026-04-15 21:05 ` [PATCH v11 13/20] gpu: nova-core: mm: Add page table walker for MMU v2/v3 Joel Fernandes
2026-04-15 21:05 ` [PATCH v11 14/20] gpu: nova-core: mm: Add Virtual Memory Manager Joel Fernandes
2026-04-15 21:05 ` [PATCH v11 15/20] gpu: nova-core: mm: Add virtual address range tracking to VMM Joel Fernandes
2026-04-15 21:05 ` [PATCH v11 16/20] gpu: nova-core: mm: Add multi-page mapping API " Joel Fernandes
2026-04-15 21:05 ` [PATCH v11 17/20] gpu: nova-core: Add BAR1 aperture type and size constant Joel Fernandes
2026-04-15 21:05 ` [PATCH v11 18/20] gpu: nova-core: mm: Add BAR1 user interface Joel Fernandes
2026-04-15 21:05 ` [PATCH v11 19/20] gpu: nova-core: mm: Add BAR1 memory management self-tests Joel Fernandes
2026-04-15 21:05 ` [PATCH v11 20/20] gpu: nova-core: mm: Add PRAMIN aperture self-tests Joel Fernandes
2026-04-15 21:05 ` [PATCH v11 00/21] gpu: nova-core: Add memory management support Joel Fernandes
2026-04-16 22:57 ` [PATCH v11 01/20] gpu: nova-core: gsp: Return GspStaticInfo from boot() John Hubbard

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