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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@kernel.org>,
	"Maarten Lankhorst" <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	"Maxime Ripard" <mripard@kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	"Dave Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Helge Deller" <deller@gmx.de>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Dave Airlie" <airlied@redhat.com>,
	"Javier Martinez Canillas" <javierm@redhat.com>,
	"Jim Cromie" <jim.cromie@gmail.com>,
	"Sam Ravnborg" <sam@ravnborg.org>,
	"Arthur Grillo" <arthurgrillo@riseup.net>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] drm: fix up fbdev Kconfig defaults
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2023 09:50:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdUAu27grxoGmtDAZVL_ZHd7vvPcZq-FJ_zYXKKQVg_idg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aa935abe-2ccf-4889-a717-4efecc13d48b@app.fastmail.com>

Hi Arnd,

On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 9:40 AM Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 12, 2023, at 09:14, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 10:53 PM Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org> wrote:
> >> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/Kconfig
> >> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/Kconfig
> >> @@ -135,7 +135,7 @@ config DRM_FBDEV_EMULATION
> >>         bool "Enable legacy fbdev support for your modesetting driver"
> >>         depends on DRM
> >>         select FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE_DETECT_PRIMARY if FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE
> >> -       default y
> >> +       default FB
> >
> > While this is true for existing configs, it is no longer true in general,
> > as DRM_FBDEV_EMULATION is no longer related to FB.
>
> I think it still makes some sense though, as configs that have
> both DRM and FB enabled almost certainly want this enabled.

OK.

People who use DRM drivers only, and now realize they no longer need
CONFIG_FB, may need to enable CONFIG_DRM_FBDEV_EMULATION
manually when disabling CONFIG_FB, depending on their use case.

> >> diff --git a/drivers/video/console/Kconfig b/drivers/video/console/Kconfig
> >> index b575cf54174af..83c2d7329ca58 100644
> >> --- a/drivers/video/console/Kconfig
> >> +++ b/drivers/video/console/Kconfig
> >> @@ -74,6 +74,7 @@ config DUMMY_CONSOLE_ROWS
> >>  config FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE
> >>         bool "Framebuffer Console support"
> >>         depends on FB_CORE && !UML
> >> +       default DRM_FBDEV_EMULATION
> >
> > Sounds good to me, although it looks a bit strange at first sight
> > (FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE defaults to n on a system with real fbdev, but
> > y on emulated fbdev?).
> > So this is the fix for commit a5ae331edb02b ("drm: Drop select
> > FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE for DRM_FBDEV_EMULATION").
>
> Correct, this should restore the console on configs that
> accidentally lost it. The real problem here is much older,
> the assymetry between framebuffer-only configs (with console
> default off) and DRM configs (with console selected
> unconditionally) started back in 2009 with commit 6fcefd56f5060
> ("drm/kms: fix kms helper license + Kconfig").
>
> I think that was a mistake, but there is little we can do
> to fix that now without breaking users.

Right...

>
> The only alternative I can think of would be to default-enable
> or force-enable FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE for any config that includes
> both VT_CONSOLE and FB_CORE. This would increase defconfig
> builds for systems that currently only want CONFIG_FB for
> either FB_DEVICE or LOGO but don't care about
> FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE. I have no idea who uses such a config,
> but I think Javier previously said this was an important
> use case.
>
> >> diff --git a/drivers/video/fbdev/core/Kconfig b/drivers/video/fbdev/core/Kconfig
> >> index 114cb8aa6c8fd..804c2bec9b43c 100644
> >> --- a/drivers/video/fbdev/core/Kconfig
> >> +++ b/drivers/video/fbdev/core/Kconfig
> >> @@ -28,7 +28,7 @@ config FIRMWARE_EDID
> >>  config FB_DEVICE
> >>         bool "Provide legacy /dev/fb* device"
> >>         depends on FB_CORE
> >> -       default y
> >> +       default FB
> >
> > Changing this means possibly causing regressions on systems running
> > an fbdev userspace.
>
> How? FB_DEVICE is a new config that was just split out from
> CONFIG_FB in 6.6-rc1, so nobody should have any defconfig
> that disables CONFIG_FB but relies on the FB_DEVICE default yet.

Right, from the PoV of running "make oldconfig" that is true.

(I was incorrectly considering the defconfigs which I maintain,
 and where I already disabled CONFIG_FB after the FB/FB_CORE
 split in linux-next).

Reviewed-by: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@glider.be>

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

-- 
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds

  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-12  7:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-11 20:52 [PATCH] drm: fix up fbdev Kconfig defaults Arnd Bergmann
2023-09-12  5:00 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2023-09-12  7:14 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-09-12  7:39   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-09-12  7:50     ` Geert Uytterhoeven [this message]
2023-09-12  7:55     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2023-09-12  7:48   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2023-09-12  7:53     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-09-12  7:58     ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-09-12  8:11   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-09-12  8:18     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-09-12  8:38       ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-09-12  8:50         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-09-12  9:04       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-09-18  7:25 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-09-18  8:57   ` Javier Martinez Canillas

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