From: Michal Suchanek <hramrach@centrum.cz>
To: James Simmons <jsimmons@infradead.org>
Cc: Alex Deucher <alexdeucher@gmail.com>,
Old FrameBuffer List <linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
DRI development list <dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
Paulius Zaleckas <paulius.zaleckas@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video mode
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:49:47 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a5d587fb1003101149m4b76ca1wcd07e5fef956b5a5@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1003101819290.4419@casper.infradead.org>
On 10 March 2010 19:47, James Simmons <jsimmons@infradead.org> wrote:
>
>> >> Yuck. See my other post about what fbdev really means in its historical
>> >> context. The struct fb_info really maps better to drm_crtc than to
>> >> drm_framebuffer. In fact take the case of the matrox fbdev driver. It
>> >> creates two framebuffer devices even tho it used one static framebuffer.
>> >> What the driver does is splits the framebuffer in two and assigned each
>> >> part to a CRTC.
>> >
>> > The only problem with that is that it eats a lot of memory for the
>> > console which limits X when it starts. On cards with limited vram ,
>> > you might not have enough memory left for any meaningful acceleration
>> > when X starts.
>>
>> It would be nice to find a way to reclaim the console memory for X,
>> but I'm not sure that can be done and still provide a good way to
>> provide oops support.
>
> Ah, the power of flags. We had the same issue with user requesting a mode
> change or fbcon asking for a different mode. We handled it with the flag
> FBINFO_MISC_USEREVENT. Since you are using KMS as the backend for fbcon you will
> have to deal also with the ability to change the resolution with tools like stty.
> I can easily see how to do this plus give you more memory like you want :-)
> For the oops are you talking about printing oops to the screen
> while X is running ? Otherwise if you experience a oops and go back to
> console mode you should be able to view it. The console text buffer is
> independent of the graphics card memory system.
>
Ability to print the oops over X does not seem to be that bad idea.
Since with KMS the kernel finally knows what X is doing with the
graphics it should be able to print it. Note that it may be the only
way to see it in situations when the console dies in one way or
another.
Thanks
Michal
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Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-11-20 13:16 [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video mode Paulius Zaleckas
2009-11-20 15:55 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video Clemens Ladisch
2009-11-20 18:53 ` James Simmons
2009-11-20 19:05 ` Andrew Morton
2009-11-20 19:39 ` Paulius Zaleckas
2009-11-20 20:01 ` James Simmons
2009-11-20 20:13 ` Paulius Zaleckas
2009-11-20 20:48 ` James Simmons
2009-11-21 4:25 ` Dave Airlie
2009-11-21 4:27 ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-01 9:18 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video mode Michal Suchanek
2010-03-03 5:02 ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-03 8:23 ` Michal Suchanek
2010-03-03 9:23 ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-03 10:32 ` Michal Suchanek
2010-03-10 18:11 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video James Simmons
2010-03-10 21:04 ` Ville Syrjälä
2010-03-10 21:16 ` Michal Suchanek
2010-03-11 2:24 ` James Simmons
2010-03-11 2:22 ` James Simmons
2010-03-11 5:03 ` Ville Syrjälä
2010-03-10 18:04 ` James Simmons
2010-03-10 17:42 ` James Simmons
2010-03-10 18:05 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video mode Alex Deucher
2010-03-10 18:10 ` Alex Deucher
2010-03-10 18:47 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video James Simmons
2010-03-10 19:49 ` Michal Suchanek [this message]
2010-03-10 20:06 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video mode Alex Deucher
2010-03-11 10:13 ` Michel Dänzer
2010-03-11 10:31 ` Pauli Nieminen
2010-03-11 15:12 ` Alex Deucher
2010-03-11 15:17 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video James Simmons
2010-03-11 15:47 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video mode Michal Suchanek
2010-03-12 14:52 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video James Simmons
2010-03-12 20:51 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video mode Dave Airlie
2010-03-13 14:40 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video James Simmons
2010-03-13 21:01 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video mode Dave Airlie
2010-03-14 11:41 ` Michel Dänzer
2010-03-15 18:38 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video James Simmons
2010-03-16 13:46 ` Michel Dänzer
2010-03-16 13:56 ` James Simmons
2010-03-16 14:00 ` Michel Dänzer
2010-03-25 12:30 ` James Simmons
2010-03-15 18:22 ` James Simmons
2010-03-10 20:58 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video mode Michal Suchanek
2010-03-11 3:41 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video James Simmons
2010-03-10 17:35 ` James Simmons
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