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From: Alex Deucher <alexdeucher@gmail.com>
To: "Michel Dänzer" <michel@daenzer.net>
Cc: linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Paulius Zaleckas <paulius.zaleckas@gmail.com>,
	Michal Suchanek <hramrach@centrum.cz>
Subject: Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video  mode
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:12:52 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a728f9f91003110712l407ed04dl28b86ef77a427218@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1268302426.7444.117.camel@thor.local>

2010/3/11 Michel Dänzer <michel@daenzer.net>:
> On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 13:10 -0500, Alex Deucher wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Alex Deucher <alexdeucher@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 12:42 PM, James Simmons <jsimmons@infradead.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> See my other post about what fbdev really means in its historical
>> >> context. The struct fb_info really maps better to drm_crtc than to
>> >> drm_framebuffer. In fact take the case of the matrox fbdev driver. It
>> >> creates two framebuffer devices even tho it used one static framebuffer.
>> >> What the driver does is splits the framebuffer in two and assigned each
>> >> part to a CRTC.
>> >
>> > The only problem with that is that it eats a lot of memory for the
>> > console which limits X when it starts. On cards with limited vram ,
>> > you might not have enough memory left for any meaningful acceleration
>> > when X starts.
>>
>> It would be nice to find a way to reclaim the console memory for X,
>> but I'm not sure that can be done and still provide a good way to
>> provide oops support.
>
> What do you think the average user will care about more?
>
>      * Seeing kernel oops/panic output about once in a lifetime.
>      * Being able to start/use X in the first place and enabling it to
>        use all of VRAM.
>
> Personally, I've never even seen any kernel oops/panic output despite
> numerous opportunities for that in the couple of months I've been using
> KMS. But I have spent considerable time and effort trying to get rid of
> the pinned fbcon BO. If the oops/panic output is the only thing
> preventing that, maybe that should only be enabled via some module
> option for developers.

I'm all for it!

Alex

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Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-20 13:16 [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video mode Paulius Zaleckas
2009-11-20 15:55 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video Clemens Ladisch
2009-11-20 18:53 ` James Simmons
2009-11-20 19:05 ` Andrew Morton
2009-11-20 19:39 ` Paulius Zaleckas
2009-11-20 20:01 ` James Simmons
2009-11-20 20:13 ` Paulius Zaleckas
2009-11-20 20:48 ` James Simmons
2009-11-21  4:25 ` Dave Airlie
2009-11-21  4:27 ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-01  9:18   ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video mode Michal Suchanek
2010-03-03  5:02     ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-03  8:23       ` Michal Suchanek
2010-03-03  9:23         ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-03 10:32           ` Michal Suchanek
2010-03-10 18:11             ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video James Simmons
2010-03-10 21:04               ` Ville Syrjälä
2010-03-10 21:16                 ` Michal Suchanek
2010-03-11  2:24                   ` James Simmons
2010-03-11  2:22                 ` James Simmons
2010-03-11  5:03                   ` Ville Syrjälä
2010-03-10 18:04           ` James Simmons
2010-03-10 17:42       ` James Simmons
2010-03-10 18:05         ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video mode Alex Deucher
2010-03-10 18:10           ` Alex Deucher
2010-03-10 18:47             ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video James Simmons
2010-03-10 19:49               ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video mode Michal Suchanek
2010-03-10 20:06               ` Alex Deucher
2010-03-11 10:13             ` Michel Dänzer
2010-03-11 10:31               ` Pauli Nieminen
2010-03-11 15:12               ` Alex Deucher [this message]
2010-03-11 15:17                 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video James Simmons
2010-03-11 15:47                   ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video mode Michal Suchanek
2010-03-12 14:52                     ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video James Simmons
2010-03-12 20:51                       ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video mode Dave Airlie
2010-03-13 14:40                         ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video James Simmons
2010-03-13 21:01                           ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video mode Dave Airlie
2010-03-14 11:41                             ` Michel Dänzer
2010-03-15 18:38                               ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video James Simmons
2010-03-16 13:46                                 ` Michel Dänzer
2010-03-16 13:56                                   ` James Simmons
2010-03-16 14:00                                     ` Michel Dänzer
2010-03-25 12:30                                       ` James Simmons
2010-03-15 18:22                             ` James Simmons
2010-03-10 20:58         ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video mode Michal Suchanek
2010-03-11  3:41           ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video James Simmons
2010-03-10 17:35     ` James Simmons

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