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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	adaplas@gmail.com, linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [git patches] two warning fixes
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 18:50:28 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.0.999.0707181848060.27353@woody.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070718184101.1d31db9c.akpm@linux-foundation.org>



On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Andrew Morton wrote:
> 
> The only reason why the sysfs creation would fail is a kernel bug,
> so the consequence of your proposal is in fact unfixed kernel bugs.

Well, the thing is, I suspect we have created way more bugs by having that 
stupid "you must check the return value even if you don't care", than by 
just letting it go.

> Now, we can talk about making those sysfs core functions generate warnings
> themselves, and we can talk about generating new wrappers around them which
> generate warnings and which return void, then migrating code over to use
> those.

If the only valid reason to fail is a kernel bug, it damn well should be 
that sysfs function itself that should complain. It's the only thing that 
knows and cares.

> And we can also talk about blithely ignoring these errors and not telling
> anyone about our bugs, but nobody should listen to such scandalous ideas.

Here's a question: do you always check the return value of "printf()"?

Nobody does. It's not worth it. Trying to do so just creates messy code, 
and MORE BUGS.

So yes, I think we should ignore return values when they have absolutely 
zero interest level to us.

		Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-19  1:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-18 23:55 [git patches] two warning fixes Jeff Garzik
2007-07-18 23:59 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  0:05   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-19  1:19     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-07-19  1:41       ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-19  1:50         ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2007-07-19  2:05           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-07-19  2:36           ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-19  1:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-19  2:32   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-19 13:40     ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-07-19 18:04       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-19 18:20         ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-07-20 18:34         ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-07-21  0:32           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-07-22  4:03             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-22 21:29               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-07-23  3:26         ` Kyle Moffett
2007-07-19 13:38   ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-07-19 18:00     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-20 12:54       ` Tim Tassonis

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