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From: James Simmons <jsimmons@infradead.org>
To: "Michel Dänzer" <michel@daenzer.net>
Cc: Linux Fbdev development list <linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Paulius Zaleckas <paulius.zaleckas@gmail.com>,
	Michal Suchanek <hramrach@centrum.cz>,
	Alex Deucher <alexdeucher@gmail.com>,
	DRI development list <dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 12:30:32 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1003241343350.32256@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1268748032.4176.56.camel@thor.local>


> > > > The fb_ops can only be called from fbcon or the fbdev userland interface. 
> > > > The fbcon calls should only happen when the VC is in KD_TEXT mode. Now 
> > > > with the DRM backend we have the advantage of creating a mapping seperate 
> > > > from the console mapping. A fb_open/fb_close could be used to cleaning up 
> > > > the userland mmap as well as handle the console pinning. We can supply 
> > > > your own fb_mmap hook.
> > > 
> > > Again, the issue is not userspace but that fb_ops hooks can be called
> > > from interrupt context etc.
> > 
> > This should not happen. The VT layer is protected from calling in the 
> > interrupt context. TNor does fbcon call any fb_ops methods from a irq.
> 
> E.g. printk?

Sorry I have been sick. This is true when you are in KD_TEXT mode and using fbcon. 
Now while working on a graphical console yes you can have other hardware devices do
a printk which can alter the state of of your graphics card. As for debugging a 
graphics driver you have to be very careful with your printks. Usually in that case
I use two graphics cards in my system and map one to fbcon and test the other
graphcis cards driver.

P.S
	The fbdev api is such that it doesn't always require a permanent framebuffer
mapping. This was done for the case of graphical hardware that lacks a directly 
accessable framebuffer. If you have accelerated fillrect,copyarea,and imageblit then 
you don't even the mapping except in the case of someone calling mmap on /dev/fbX.
I noticed the nouveau drivers has a accelerated fbcon :-)

  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-25 12:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-20 13:16 [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video mode Paulius Zaleckas
2009-11-20 15:55 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video Clemens Ladisch
2009-11-20 18:53 ` James Simmons
2009-11-20 19:05 ` Andrew Morton
2009-11-20 19:39 ` Paulius Zaleckas
2009-11-20 20:01 ` James Simmons
2009-11-20 20:13 ` Paulius Zaleckas
2009-11-20 20:48 ` James Simmons
2009-11-21  4:25 ` Dave Airlie
2009-11-21  4:27 ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-01  9:18   ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video mode Michal Suchanek
2010-03-03  5:02     ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-03  8:23       ` Michal Suchanek
2010-03-03  9:23         ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-03 10:32           ` Michal Suchanek
2010-03-10 18:11             ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video James Simmons
2010-03-10 21:04               ` Ville Syrjälä
2010-03-10 21:16                 ` Michal Suchanek
2010-03-11  2:24                   ` James Simmons
2010-03-11  2:22                 ` James Simmons
2010-03-11  5:03                   ` Ville Syrjälä
2010-03-10 18:04           ` James Simmons
2010-03-10 17:42       ` James Simmons
2010-03-10 18:05         ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video mode Alex Deucher
2010-03-10 18:10           ` Alex Deucher
2010-03-10 18:47             ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video James Simmons
2010-03-10 19:49               ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video mode Michal Suchanek
2010-03-10 20:06               ` Alex Deucher
2010-03-11 10:13             ` Michel Dänzer
2010-03-11 10:31               ` Pauli Nieminen
2010-03-11 15:12               ` Alex Deucher
2010-03-11 15:17                 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video James Simmons
2010-03-11 15:47                   ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video mode Michal Suchanek
2010-03-12 14:52                     ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video James Simmons
2010-03-12 20:51                       ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video mode Dave Airlie
2010-03-13 14:40                         ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video James Simmons
2010-03-13 21:01                           ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video mode Dave Airlie
2010-03-14 11:41                             ` Michel Dänzer
2010-03-15 18:38                               ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video James Simmons
2010-03-16 13:46                                 ` Michel Dänzer
2010-03-16 13:56                                   ` James Simmons
2010-03-16 14:00                                     ` Michel Dänzer
2010-03-25 12:30                                       ` James Simmons [this message]
2010-03-15 18:22                             ` James Simmons
2010-03-10 20:58         ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video mode Michal Suchanek
2010-03-11  3:41           ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] drm_fb_helper: Impossible to change video James Simmons
2010-03-10 17:35     ` James Simmons

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