From: James Simmons <jsimmons@infradead.org>
To: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Cc: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
Tomasz Stanislawski <t.stanislaws@samsung.com>,
linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org,
Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@maxwell.research.nokia.com>,
Pawel Osciak <pawel@osciak.com>,
Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
Marcus Lorentzon <marcus.lorentzon@linaro.org>,
dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
Alexander Deucher <alexander.deucher@amd.com>,
Rob Clark <rob@ti.com>,
linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: Kernel Display and Video API Consolidation mini-summit at ELC 2012 - Notes
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:03:21 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.02.1202221559510.3721@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2168398.Pv8ir5xFGf@avalon>
> > Imo we should ditch this - fb accel doesn't belong into the kernel. Even
> > on hw that still has a blitter for easy 2d accel without a complete 3d
> > state setup necessary, it's not worth it. Chris Wilson from our team once
> > played around with implementing fb accel in the kernel (i915 hw still has
> > a blitter engine in the latest generations). He quickly noticed that to
> > have decent speed, competitive with s/w rendering by the cpu he needs the
> > entire batch and buffer management stuff from userspace. And to really
> > beat the cpu, you need even more magic.
> >
> > If you want fast 2d accel, use something like cairo.
>
> Our conclusion on this is that we should not expose an explicit 2D
> acceleration API at the kernel level. If really needed, hardware 2D
> acceleration could be implemented as a DRM device to handle memory management,
> commands ring setup, synchronization, ... but I'm not even sure if that's
> worth it. I might not have conveyed it well in my notes.
Fbcon scrolling at be painful at HD or better modes. Fbcon needs 3
possible accels; copyarea, imageblit, and fillrect. The first two could be
hooked from the TTM layer. Its something I plan to experiment to see if
its worth it.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-02-22 16:03 UTC|newest]
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[not found] <201201171126.42675.laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
[not found] ` <1654816.MX2JJ87BEo@avalon>
2012-02-16 23:25 ` Kernel Display and Video API Consolidation mini-summit at ELC 2012 - Notes Laurent Pinchart
2012-02-17 9:55 ` Daniel Vetter
2012-02-17 18:46 ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-02-22 16:03 ` James Simmons [this message]
2012-02-22 16:24 ` Daniel Vetter
2012-02-22 16:28 ` Rob Clark
2012-02-23 7:34 ` Michel Dänzer
2012-02-22 16:36 ` Chris Wilson
2012-02-22 16:40 ` Clark, Rob
2012-02-22 17:26 ` James Simmons
2012-02-23 0:15 ` Alan Cox
2012-02-22 17:00 ` Adam Jackson
2012-02-20 16:09 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-02-20 16:19 ` David Airlie
2012-05-17 2:46 ` Jun Nie
2012-05-17 7:53 ` Hans Verkuil
2012-02-17 11:19 ` Semwal, Sumit
2012-02-17 18:49 ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-02-17 19:42 ` Adam Jackson
2012-02-18 17:53 ` Clark, Rob
2012-02-18 0:56 ` Keith Packard
2012-02-20 16:40 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-03-02 14:23 ` Heiko Stübner
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