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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.51 / 50.00]; BAYES_HAM(-3.00)[100.00%]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[suse.de:s=susede2_rsa,suse.de:s=susede2_ed25519]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.20)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmx.de,linux-m68k.org]; FUZZY_RATELIMITED(0.00)[rspamd.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVRCPT(0.00)[gmx.de]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_SIGNED(0.00)[suse.de:s=susede2_rsa,suse.de:s=susede2_ed25519]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DBL_BLOCKED_OPENRESOLVER(0.00)[suse.de:mid,suse.de:dkim,suse.de:email,suse.com:url]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[suse.de:+] X-Rspamd-Action: no action X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.51 X-Spam-Level: X-Rspamd-Server: rspamd1.dmz-prg2.suse.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B7D2C5BD90 Hi Am 24.04.26 um 10:36 schrieb Helge Deller: > On 4/24/26 09:01, Thomas Zimmermann wrote: >> Hi >> >>>> -Contact: Thomas Zimmermann >>>> - >>>> -Level: Starter >>> I am not really against keeping this item. But as the related changes >>> are not pure refactorings, and cause a change in behavior, they _must_ >>> be tested on actual hardware.  I guess making that explicit would be a >>> bit silly (heck, all changes should be tested).  And bumping the level >>> to intermediate might send the wrong message, too (starters don't need >>> to test? Doh...) >>> >>> Thomas: do we still any hardware for which there exist both DRM and >>> fbdev drivers, and the resource management is missing in the fbdev >>> drivers? >> >> See my other reply on why this item exists. It's also about hand- >> over during boot up, which could affect any/most driver. >> >> We can remove the item now, if that helps, but it might lead to other >> bug reports later on. > > Thanks, I'll remove the item now. > In case we run into reports later on, I'm happy to work with you on > them then. > > Can I add an Acked-by from you? No. I think I made my point clear why this item exists. We can talk about how to handle these old drivers (staging, removal, fixing, etc), but pretending it's all well will not solve any issues. Best regards Thomas > > Helge -- -- Thomas Zimmermann Graphics Driver Developer SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH Frankenstr. 146, 90461 Nürnberg, Germany, www.suse.com GF: Jochen Jaser, Andrew McDonald, Werner Knoblich, (HRB 36809, AG Nürnberg)