From: Javier Martinez Canillas <javierm@redhat.com>
To: Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
daniel@ffwll.ch, airlied@linux.ie, mripard@kernel.org,
maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com, deller@gmx.de
Cc: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/9] drm/simpledrm: Use fbdev defaults for shadow buffering
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2022 10:58:22 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f869d4ee-210f-06b4-015b-b3ec78eaf4fb@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <80342fbf-5aee-5769-b439-3e147c44711f@suse.de>
On 3/8/22 10:56, Thomas Zimmermann wrote:
> Hi
>
> Am 08.03.22 um 10:31 schrieb Javier Martinez Canillas:
>> On 3/3/22 21:58, Thomas Zimmermann wrote:
>>> Don't select shadow buffering for the fbdev console explicitly. The
>>> fbdev emulation's heuristic will enable it for any framebuffer with
>>> .dirty callback.
>>>
>>
>> Indeed it does. Not related to your series but looking at this
>> patch I noticed that drivers/gpu/drm/tiny/bochs.c will be the
>> only driver that sets .prefer_shadow_fbdev after this lands.
>>
>> The driver is using GEM so I wonder if after your series this
>> DRM driver could have a .dirty callback and the field just be
>> dropped? Or there would still be a case where it is needed ?
> Bochs uses VRAM helpers (i.e., TTM). Fbdev and userspace would directly
> write into that buffer memory without a copy. So the dirty function
> would be empty.
>
> Other drivers with VRAM helpers (e.g., hibmc, ast) operate on uncached
> I/O memory AFAICT. So they set .prefer_shadow, which also affects
> userspace. Bochs uses cached memory and shouldn't need prefer_shadow.
> Setting prefer_shadow_fbdev is only there for making the fbdev buffer
> object evictable from video memory.
>
> As it stands, using prefer_shadow_fbdev is the cleanest solution, even
> if bochs is the only user of that field.
>
> Alternatively, we could make it a requirement that qemu provides enough
> video memory for bochs to unconditionally pin the fbdev BO there without
> ever evicting. I guess, that would mean 32 MiB of VRAM at least.
>
I see. Thanks a lot for this explanation.
> Best regards
> Thomas
>
--
Best regards,
Javier Martinez Canillas
Linux Engineering
Red Hat
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-03-08 9:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-03-03 20:58 [PATCH 0/9] drm: Support GEM SHMEM fbdev without shadow FB Thomas Zimmermann
2022-03-03 20:58 ` [PATCH 1/9] drm/simpledrm: Use fbdev defaults for shadow buffering Thomas Zimmermann
2022-03-08 9:31 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-03-08 9:56 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-03-08 9:58 ` Javier Martinez Canillas [this message]
2022-03-03 20:58 ` [PATCH 2/9] fbdev: Put mmap for deferred I/O into drivers Thomas Zimmermann
2022-03-08 14:03 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-03-03 20:58 ` [PATCH 3/9] fbdev: Track deferred-I/O pages in pageref struct Thomas Zimmermann
2022-03-08 14:42 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-03-09 8:36 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-03-09 11:21 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-03-03 20:58 ` [PATCH 4/9] fbdev: Export helper for implementing page_mkwrite Thomas Zimmermann
2022-03-08 17:21 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-03-03 20:58 ` [PATCH 5/9] drm/fb-helper: Separate deferred I/O from shadow buffers Thomas Zimmermann
2022-03-08 17:24 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-03-03 20:58 ` [PATCH 6/9] drm/fb-helper: Provide callback to create fbdev dumb buffers Thomas Zimmermann
2022-03-08 17:51 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-03-09 8:42 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-03-15 19:11 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-03-03 20:58 ` [PATCH 7/9] drm/fb-helper: Provide fbdev deferred-I/O helpers Thomas Zimmermann
2022-03-08 18:56 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-03-03 20:58 ` [PATCH 8/9] drm/gem-shmem: Implement fbdev dumb buffer and mmap helpers Thomas Zimmermann
2022-03-08 19:29 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-03-09 8:47 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-03-09 11:25 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-03-03 20:58 ` [PATCH 9/9] drm/virtio: Implement dumb_create_fbdev with GEM SHMEM helpers Thomas Zimmermann
2022-03-08 19:37 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-03-09 8:52 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-03-09 11:29 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-03-08 9:13 ` [PATCH 0/9] drm: Support GEM SHMEM fbdev without shadow FB Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-03-08 9:44 ` Thomas Zimmermann
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