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From: Mukesh R <mrathor@linux.microsoft.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH V0 0/2] Fix CONFIG_HYPERV and vmbus related anamoly
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2025 19:16:37 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ff4c58f1-564d-ddfa-bdff-48ffee6e0d72@linux.microsoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SN6PR02MB4157917D84D00DBDAF54BD69D406A@SN6PR02MB4157.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

On 9/2/25 07:42, Michael Kelley wrote:
> From: Mukesh Rathor <mrathor@linux.microsoft.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2025 6:00 PM
>>
>> At present, drivers/Makefile will subst =m to =y for CONFIG_HYPERV for hv
>> subdir. Also, drivers/hv/Makefile replaces =m to =y to build in
>> hv_common.c that is needed for the drivers. Moreover, vmbus driver is
>> built if CONFIG_HYPER is set, either loadable or builtin.
>>
>> This is not a good approach. CONFIG_HYPERV is really an umbrella config that
>> encompasses builtin code and various other things and not a dedicated config
>> option for VMBUS. Vmbus should really have a config option just like
>> CONFIG_HYPERV_BALLOON etc. This small series introduces CONFIG_HYPERV_VMBUS
>> to build VMBUS driver and make that distinction explicit. With that
>> CONFIG_HYPERV could be changed to bool.
> 
> Separating the core hypervisor support (CONFIG_HYPERV) from the VMBus
> support (CONFIG_HYPERV_VMBUS) makes sense to me. Overall the code
> is already mostly in separate source files code, though there's some
> entanglement in the handling of VMBus interrupts, which could be
> improved later.
> 
> However, I have a compatibility concern. Consider this scenario:
> 
> 1) Assume running in a Hyper-V VM with a current Linux kernel version
>     built with CONFIG_HYPERV=m.
> 2) Grab a new version of kernel source code that contains this patch set.
> 3) Run 'make olddefconfig' to create the .config file for the new kernel.
> 4) Build the new kernel. This succeeds.
> 5) Install and run the new kernel in the Hyper-V VM. This fails.
> 
> The failure occurs because CONFIG_HYPERV=m is no longer legal,
> so the .config file created in Step 3 has CONFIG_HYPERV=n. The
> newly built kernel has no Hyper-V support and won't run in a
> Hyper-V VM.
> 
> As a second issue, if in Step 1 the current kernel was built with
> CONFIG_HYPERV=y, then the .config file for the new kernel will have
> CONFIG_HYPERV=y, which is better. But CONFIG_HYPERV_VMBUS
> defaults to 'n', so the new kernel doesn't have any VMBus drivers
> and won't run in a typical Hyper-V VM.
> 
> The second issue could be fixed by assigning CONFIG_HYPERV_VMBUS
> a default value, such as whatever CONFIG_HYPERV is set to. But
> I'm not sure how to fix the first issue, except by continuing to
> allow CONFIG_HYPERV=m. 

To certain extent, imo, users are expected to check config files
for changes when moving to new versions/releases, so it would be a 
one time burden. CONFIG_HYPERV=m is just broken imo as one sees that
in .config but magically symbols in drivers/hv are in kerenel.

Thanks,
-Mukesh


> See additional minor comments in Patches 1 and 2.
> 
> Michael
> 
>>
>> For now, hv_common.c is left as is to reduce conflicts for upcoming patches,
>> but once merges are mostly done, that and some others should be moved to
>> virt/hyperv directory.
>>
>> Mukesh Rathor (2):
>>   hyper-v: Add CONFIG_HYPERV_VMBUS option
>>   hyper-v: Make CONFIG_HYPERV bool
>>
>>  drivers/Makefile               |  2 +-
>>  drivers/gpu/drm/Kconfig        |  2 +-
>>  drivers/hid/Kconfig            |  2 +-
>>  drivers/hv/Kconfig             | 14 ++++++++++----
>>  drivers/hv/Makefile            |  4 ++--
>>  drivers/input/serio/Kconfig    |  4 ++--
>>  drivers/net/hyperv/Kconfig     |  2 +-
>>  drivers/pci/Kconfig            |  2 +-
>>  drivers/scsi/Kconfig           |  2 +-
>>  drivers/uio/Kconfig            |  2 +-
>>  drivers/video/fbdev/Kconfig    |  2 +-
>>  include/asm-generic/mshyperv.h |  8 +++++---
>>  net/vmw_vsock/Kconfig          |  2 +-
>>  13 files changed, 28 insertions(+), 20 deletions(-)
>>
>> --
>> 2.36.1.vfs.0.0
>>


  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-04  2:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-28  0:59 [PATCH V0 0/2] Fix CONFIG_HYPERV and vmbus related anamoly Mukesh Rathor
2025-08-28  0:59 ` [PATCH V0 1/2] hyper-v: Add CONFIG_HYPERV_VMBUS option Mukesh Rathor
2025-08-29  0:29   ` Nuno Das Neves
2025-08-29 20:59     ` Mukesh R
2025-09-02 14:42   ` Michael Kelley
2025-08-28  0:59 ` [PATCH V0 2/2] hyper-v: Make CONFIG_HYPERV bool Mukesh Rathor
2025-09-02 14:42   ` Michael Kelley
2025-09-02 14:42 ` [PATCH V0 0/2] Fix CONFIG_HYPERV and vmbus related anamoly Michael Kelley
2025-09-04  2:16   ` Mukesh R [this message]
2025-09-04 16:26     ` Michael Kelley
2025-09-04 18:18       ` Mukesh R
2025-09-05 20:08         ` Nuno Das Neves
2025-09-05 21:41           ` Mukesh R
2025-09-06  0:34             ` Mukesh R

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