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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Egbert Eich <eich@xfree86.org>, Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@yahoo.com>,
	kronos@kronoz.cjb.net,
	Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: [Dri-devel] Re: DRM and pci_driver conversion
Date: 27 Oct 2003 08:10:16 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1isma67jb.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0310251116140.4083-100000@home.osdl.org>

Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org> writes:

> On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, Egbert Eich wrote:
> > 
> > Speaking of XFree86: when I developed the PCI resource stuff in 
> > XFree86 I was trying to get support from kernel folks to get the 
> > appropriate user space interfaces into the kernel. When I got 
> > nowhere I decided to do everything myself. 
> 
> There won't be any "user space interfaces". There are perfectly good 
> in-kernel interfaces, and anybody who needs them needs to be in kernel 
> space. Ie the kernel interfaces are for kernel modules, not for user space 
> accesses.

Well almost.    There is still one significant flaw in the kernel space stuff.

The BIOS can specify arbitrary regions as reserved in the E820 map and then
a kernel driver can't use that region itself.  This shows up in corner
cases where the resource on the PCI device is a boolean rather than
a general purpose thing.  Particularly for mtd map drivers to allow
flashing your ROM from linux this is a problem.

This is not required for 2.6.0 but it would be nice to actually be able
to reliably reserve resources in kernel drivers.

Eric


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-10-27 15:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1066703516.646.24.camel@leguin>
2003-10-23 19:04 ` DRM and pci_driver conversion Kronos
2003-10-23 21:10   ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Eric Anholt
2003-10-23 21:31     ` Jon Smirl
2003-10-23 23:23       ` [Dri-devel] " Linus Torvalds
2003-10-23 23:46         ` Eric Anholt
2003-10-24  1:19         ` [Dri-devel] " Jeff Garzik
2003-10-24  1:52           ` [Dri-devel] Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Jon Smirl
2003-10-24  3:47           ` Multiple drivers for same hardware:, was: " Jon Smirl
2003-10-24  4:40             ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-28 18:00               ` James Simmons
2003-10-24 16:44           ` [Dri-devel] " Linus Torvalds
2003-10-24 16:57             ` [Dri-devel] Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Petr Vandrovec
2003-10-24 17:59               ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-24 18:34                 ` Jon Smirl
2003-10-24 19:45                   ` [Dri-devel] " Ivan Kokshaysky
2003-10-24 19:08               ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2003-10-24 17:06             ` Jeff Garzik
2003-10-24  1:50         ` Jon Smirl
2003-10-25 17:29         ` Egbert Eich
2003-10-25 18:37           ` [Dri-devel] Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Linus Torvalds
2003-10-25 19:17             ` [Dri-devel] " Jeff Garzik
2003-10-27 14:37               ` Ingo Oeser
2003-10-27 15:14               ` Keith Whitwell
2003-10-27 15:38                 ` Jeff Garzik
     [not found]                 ` <20031027153824.GA19711@gtf.org>
2003-10-27 15:50                   ` Keith Whitwell
     [not found]               ` <200310271537.30435.ioe-lkml@rameria.de>
2003-10-27 15:43                 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-10-28 10:53                   ` [Dri-devel] Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Ingo Oeser
2003-10-25 21:02             ` [Dri-devel] " Jon Smirl
2003-10-25 22:07             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-10-27 15:10             ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2003-10-27 15:10             ` Keith Whitwell
     [not found]             ` <20031027114006.A66611@xfree86.org>
2003-10-27 19:38               ` Ian Romanick
2003-10-27 21:32                 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-27 23:55                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-10-28  2:13                     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-10-28  3:27                       ` Philip Brown
2003-10-28 19:40                       ` James Simmons
2003-10-28 21:35                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-10-28 22:09                           ` Jon Smirl
2003-10-28 22:26                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-10-28 22:54                         ` Linus Torvalds

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