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From: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@Huawei.com>
To: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Yicong Yang <yangyicong@huawei.com>,
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	Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/32] perf: Allow a PMU to have a parent
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2023 10:56:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230412105650.000014f9@Huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2023040610-morbidly-supermom-e81c@gregkh>

On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 19:08:45 +0200
Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 06, 2023 at 05:44:45PM +0100, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> > On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:40:40 +0200
> > Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> >   
> > > On Thu, Apr 06, 2023 at 11:16:07AM +0100, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> > >   
> > > > In the long run I agree it would be good.  Short term there are more instances of
> > > > struct pmu that don't have parents than those that do (even after this series).
> > > > We need to figure out what to do about those before adding checks on it being
> > > > set.    
> > > 
> > > Right, I don't think you've touched *any* of the x86 PMUs for example,
> > > and getting everybody that boots an x86 kernel a warning isn't going to
> > > go over well :-)
> > >   
> > 
> > It was tempting :) "Warning: Parentless PMU: try a different architecture."
> > 
> > I'd love some inputs on what the x86 PMU devices parents should be?
> > CPU counters in general tend to just spin out of deep in the architecture code.
> > 
> > My overall favorite is an l2 cache related PMU that is spun up in
> > arch/arm/kernel/irq.c init_IRQ()
> > 
> > I'm just not going to try and figure out why...  
> 
> Why not change the api to force a parent to be passed in?  And if one
> isn't, we make it a "virtual" device and throw it in the class for them?

Longer term I'd be fine doing that, but I'd like to identify the right parents
rather than end up sweeping it under the carpet.  Anything we either get completely
stuck on (or decide we don't care about) could indeed fall back to a virtual
device.

Jonathan


> 
> thanks,
> 
> greg k-h


  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-12  9:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-04 13:41 [PATCH 00/32] Add parents to struct pmu -> dev Jonathan Cameron
2023-04-04 13:41 ` [PATCH 01/32] perf: Allow a PMU to have a parent Jonathan Cameron
2023-04-04 13:51   ` Greg KH
2023-04-06  4:03   ` Yicong Yang
2023-04-06 10:16     ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-04-06 12:40       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-04-06 16:44         ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-04-06 17:08           ` Greg KH
2023-04-12  9:56             ` Jonathan Cameron [this message]
2023-04-06 19:49           ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-06 13:06             ` Mark Rutland
2023-06-06 13:18               ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-06 13:30                 ` Mark Rutland
2023-06-06 13:48                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-07 11:00                     ` Robin Murphy
2023-04-12 12:41           ` Robin Murphy
2023-04-04 13:41 ` [PATCH 02/32] perf/hisi-pcie: Assign parent for event_source device Jonathan Cameron
2023-04-04 13:51   ` Greg KH
2023-04-06  3:56   ` Yicong Yang
2023-04-04 13:41 ` [PATCH 03/32] Documentation: hisi-pmu: Drop reference to /sys/devices path Jonathan Cameron
2023-04-04 13:52   ` Greg KH
2023-04-06  3:56   ` Yicong Yang
2023-04-04 13:41 ` [PATCH 04/32] perf/hisi-uncore: Assign parents for event_source devices Jonathan Cameron
2023-04-04 13:52   ` Greg KH
2023-04-06  3:57   ` Yicong Yang
2023-04-04 13:41 ` [PATCH 05/32] Documentation: hns-pmu: Use /sys/bus/event_source/devices paths Jonathan Cameron
2023-04-04 13:52   ` Greg KH
2023-04-04 13:41 ` [PATCH 06/32] perf/hisi-hns3: Assign parents for event_source device Jonathan Cameron
2023-04-04 13:42 ` [PATCH 07/32] perf/amlogic: Assign parents for event_source devices Jonathan Cameron
2023-04-10  2:00   ` Jiucheng Xu
2023-04-04 13:42 ` [PATCH 08/32] perf/arm_cspmu: " Jonathan Cameron
2023-04-04 14:50   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2023-04-04 13:42 ` [PATCH 09/32] Documentation: xgene-pmu: Use /sys/bus/event_source/devices paths Jonathan Cameron
2023-04-04 13:42 ` [PATCH 10/32] perf/xgene: Assign parents for event_source devices Jonathan Cameron
2023-04-04 13:42 ` [PATCH 11/32] Documentation: thunderx2-pmu: Use /sys/bus/event_source/devices paths Jonathan Cameron
2023-04-04 13:42 ` [PATCH 12/32] perf/thunderx2: Assign parents for event_source devices Jonathan Cameron
2023-04-04 13:42 ` [PATCH 13/32] perf/riscv: " Jonathan Cameron
2023-04-04 13:42 ` [PATCH 14/32] Documentation: qcom-pmu: Use /sys/bus/event_source/devices paths Jonathan Cameron
2023-04-04 13:42 ` [PATCH 15/32] perf/qcom: Assign parents for event_source devices Jonathan Cameron
2023-04-04 13:42 ` [PATCH 16/32] perf/imx_ddr: " Jonathan Cameron
2023-04-04 13:42 ` [PATCH 17/32] perf/arm_pmu: " Jonathan Cameron
2023-04-04 13:42 ` [PATCH 18/32] perf/alibaba_uncore: Assign parents for event_source device Jonathan Cameron
2023-04-05  3:50   ` Shuai Xue
2023-04-04 13:42 ` [PATCH 19/32] perf/arm-cci: " Jonathan Cameron
2023-04-04 14:45   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2023-04-04 13:42 ` [PATCH 20/32] perf/arm-ccn: " Jonathan Cameron
2023-04-12 12:09   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2023-04-04 13:42 ` [PATCH 21/32] perf/arm-cmn: " Jonathan Cameron
2023-04-12 11:52   ` Robin Murphy
2023-04-04 13:42 ` [PATCH 22/32] perf/arm-dmc620: " Jonathan Cameron
2023-04-04 13:42 ` [PATCH 23/32] perf/arm-dsu: " Jonathan Cameron
2023-04-04 14:52   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2023-04-04 13:42 ` [PATCH 24/32] perf/arm-smmuv3: " Jonathan Cameron
2023-04-04 13:42 ` [PATCH 25/32] perf/arm-spe: " Jonathan Cameron
2023-04-12 12:08   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2023-04-04 13:42 ` [PATCH 26/32] arc: Assign parents for event_source devices Jonathan Cameron
2023-04-04 13:42 ` [PATCH 27/32] ARM: imx: Assign parents for mmdc " Jonathan Cameron
2023-04-04 13:42 ` [PATCH 28/32] dmaengine: idxd: Assign parent for event_source device Jonathan Cameron
2023-04-04 13:42 ` [PATCH 29/32] fpga: dfl: " Jonathan Cameron
2023-04-07  6:42   ` Xu Yilun
2023-04-04 13:42 ` [PATCH 30/32] drivers/nvdimm: " Jonathan Cameron
2023-04-05  5:05   ` Dan Williams
2023-04-04 13:42 ` [PATCH 31/32] Documentation: ABI + trace: hisi_ptt: update paths to bus/event_source Jonathan Cameron
2023-04-06  3:54   ` Yicong Yang
2023-04-04 13:42 ` [PATCH 32/32] hwtracing: hisi_ptt: Assign parent for event_source device Jonathan Cameron
2023-04-06  3:55   ` Yicong Yang
2023-04-04 13:51 ` [PATCH 00/32] Add parents to struct pmu -> dev Greg KH
2023-04-04 14:40 ` Greg KH

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