From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 16/19] perf: Introduce positive capability for sampling
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2025 14:28:43 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aK22izKE4r6wI_D9@J2N7QTR9R3> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250826130806.GY4067720@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Tue, Aug 26, 2025 at 03:08:06PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2025 at 06:01:08PM +0100, Robin Murphy wrote:
> > Sampling is inherently a feature for CPU PMUs, given that the thing
> > to be sampled is a CPU context. These days, we have many more
> > uncore/system PMUs than CPU PMUs, so it no longer makes much sense to
> > assume sampling support by default and force the ever-growing majority
> > of drivers to opt out of it (or erroneously fail to). Instead, let's
> > introduce a positive opt-in capability that's more obvious and easier to
> > maintain.
>
> > diff --git a/include/linux/perf_event.h b/include/linux/perf_event.h
> > index 4d439c24c901..bf2cfbeabba2 100644
> > --- a/include/linux/perf_event.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/perf_event.h
> > @@ -294,7 +294,7 @@ struct perf_event_pmu_context;
> > /**
> > * pmu::capabilities flags
> > */
> > -#define PERF_PMU_CAP_NO_INTERRUPT 0x0001
> > +#define PERF_PMU_CAP_SAMPLING 0x0001
> > #define PERF_PMU_CAP_NO_NMI 0x0002
> > #define PERF_PMU_CAP_AUX_NO_SG 0x0004
> > #define PERF_PMU_CAP_EXTENDED_REGS 0x0008
> > @@ -305,6 +305,7 @@ struct perf_event_pmu_context;
> > #define PERF_PMU_CAP_EXTENDED_HW_TYPE 0x0100
> > #define PERF_PMU_CAP_AUX_PAUSE 0x0200
> > #define PERF_PMU_CAP_AUX_PREFER_LARGE 0x0400
> > +#define PERF_PMU_CAP_NO_INTERRUPT 0x0800
>
> So NO_INTERRUPT was supposed to be the negative of your new SAMPLING
> (and I agree with your reasoning).
>
> What I'm confused/curious about is why we retain NO_INTERRUPT?
I see from your other reply that you spotted the next patch does that.
For the sake of other reviewers or anyone digging through the git
history it's probably worth adding a line to this commit message to say:
| A subsequent patch will remove PERF_PMU_CAP_NO_INTERRUPT as this
| requires some additional cleanup.
Mark.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-26 13:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-13 17:00 [PATCH 00/19] perf: Rework event_init checks Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:00 ` [PATCH 01/19] perf/arm-cmn: Fix event validation Robin Murphy
2025-08-26 10:46 ` Mark Rutland
2025-08-13 17:00 ` [PATCH 02/19] perf/hisilicon: Fix group validation Robin Murphy
2025-08-26 11:15 ` Mark Rutland
2025-08-26 13:18 ` Mark Rutland
2025-08-26 14:35 ` Robin Murphy
2025-08-26 15:31 ` Mark Rutland
2025-08-26 15:55 ` Mark Rutland
2025-08-27 14:03 ` Mark Rutland
2025-08-13 17:00 ` [PATCH 03/19] perf/imx8_ddr: " Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:00 ` [PATCH 04/19] perf/starfive: " Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:00 ` [PATCH 05/19] iommu/vt-d: Fix perfmon " Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:00 ` [PATCH 06/19] ARM: l2x0: Fix " Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:00 ` [PATCH 07/19] ARM: imx: Fix MMDC PMU " Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 08/19] perf/arm_smmu_v3: Improve " Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 09/19] perf/qcom: " Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 10/19] perf/arm-ni: Improve event validation Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 11/19] perf/arm-cci: Tidy up " Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 12/19] perf: Ignore event state for group validation Robin Murphy
2025-08-26 13:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-26 15:32 ` Robin Murphy
2025-08-26 18:48 ` Ian Rogers
2025-08-27 8:18 ` Mark Rutland
2025-08-27 15:15 ` Ian Rogers
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 13/19] perf: Add helper for checking grouped events Robin Murphy
2025-08-14 5:43 ` kernel test robot
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 14/19] perf: Clean up redundant group validation Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 15/19] perf: Simplify " Robin Murphy
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 16/19] perf: Introduce positive capability for sampling Robin Murphy
2025-08-26 13:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-26 13:28 ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2025-08-26 16:35 ` Robin Murphy
2025-08-26 13:11 ` Leo Yan
2025-08-26 15:53 ` Robin Murphy
2025-08-27 8:06 ` Leo Yan
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 17/19] perf: Retire PERF_PMU_CAP_NO_INTERRUPT Robin Murphy
2025-08-26 13:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 18/19] perf: Introduce positive capability for raw events Robin Murphy
2025-08-19 13:15 ` Robin Murphy
2025-08-20 8:09 ` Thomas Richter
2025-08-20 11:39 ` Robin Murphy
2025-08-21 2:53 ` kernel test robot
2025-08-26 13:43 ` Mark Rutland
2025-08-26 22:46 ` Robin Murphy
2025-08-27 8:04 ` Mark Rutland
2025-08-27 5:27 ` Thomas Richter
2025-08-13 17:01 ` [PATCH 19/19] perf: Garbage-collect event_init checks Robin Murphy
2025-08-14 8:04 ` kernel test robot
2025-08-19 2:44 ` kernel test robot
2025-08-19 17:49 ` Robin Murphy
2025-08-19 13:25 ` Robin Murphy
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