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From: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>
To: Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.ibm.com>, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>,
	linux-fscrypt@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 4/5] ima: support fs-verity file digest based version 3 signatures
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 08:31:08 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9bda9c8a9f161763f420bf8e7bd639fe0d7e1691.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d79baf40-6bb7-d4f4-666d-91e1ad20be74@linux.ibm.com>

On Mon, 2022-03-21 at 09:10 -0400, Stefan Berger wrote:
> 
> On 3/18/22 14:21, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> > IMA may verify a file's integrity against a "good" value stored in the
> > 'security.ima' xattr or as an appended signature, based on policy.  When
> > the "good value" is stored in the xattr, the xattr may contain a file
> > hash or signature.  In either case, the "good" value is preceded by a
> > header.  The first byte of the xattr header indicates the type of data
> > - hash, signature - stored in the xattr.  To support storing fs-verity
> > signatures in the 'security.ima' xattr requires further differentiating
> > the fs-verity signature from the existing IMA signature.
> > 
> > In addition the signatures stored in 'security.ima' xattr, need to be
> > disambiguated.  Instead of directly signing the fs-verity digest, a new
> > signature version 3 is defined as the hash of the ima_file_id structure,
> > which identifies the type of signature and the digest.
> 
> Would it not be enough to just differentiat by the type of signature 
> rather than also bumping the version? It's still signature_v2_hdr but a 
> new type IMA_VERITY_DIGSIG is introduced there that shoud be sufficient 
> to indicate that a different method for calculating the hash is to be 
> used than for anything that existed before? sigv3 would then become the 
> more obvious veriftysig... ?

One of Eric's concerns was that, "an attacker (who controls the file's
contents and IMA xattr) [could] replace the file with one with a
differrent content and still be able to pass the IMA check."  His
solution was to only allow one signature version on a running system.  
For the complete description of the attack, refer to Eric's comments on
v3.

Instead of only allowing one signature version on a running system,
subsequent versions of this patch set addressed his concern, by
limiting the signature version based on policy.

-- 
thanks,

Mimi


  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-25 12:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-18 18:21 [PATCH v6 0/5] ima: support fs-verity digests and signatures Mimi Zohar
2022-03-18 18:21 ` [PATCH v6 1/5] fs-verity: define a function to return the integrity protected file digest Mimi Zohar
2022-03-18 18:21 ` [PATCH v6 2/5] ima: define a new template field named 'd-ngv2' and templates Mimi Zohar
2022-03-21 12:53   ` Stefan Berger
2022-03-21 19:48     ` Mimi Zohar
2022-03-21 20:46       ` Stefan Berger
2022-03-18 18:21 ` [PATCH v6 3/5] ima: permit fsverity's file digests in the IMA measurement list Mimi Zohar
2022-03-21 12:59   ` Stefan Berger
2022-03-21 19:54     ` Mimi Zohar
2022-03-18 18:21 ` [PATCH v6 4/5] ima: support fs-verity file digest based version 3 signatures Mimi Zohar
2022-03-21 13:10   ` Stefan Berger
2022-03-25 12:31     ` Mimi Zohar [this message]
2022-03-25 13:49       ` Stefan Berger
2022-03-18 18:21 ` [PATCH v6 5/5] fsverity: update the documentation Mimi Zohar
2022-03-18 20:55   ` Stefan Berger
2022-03-21 12:55     ` Mimi Zohar

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