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From: "Frank Filz" <ffilzlnx-mn4gwa5WIIQysxA8WJXlww@public.gmane.org>
To: "'Aneesh Kumar K.V'"
	<aneesh.kumar-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>,
	"'Michael Kerrisk'"
	<mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "'Andreas Dilger'"
	<adilger-m1MBpc4rdrD3fQ9qLvQP4Q@public.gmane.org>,
	<linux-man-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"'Miklos Szeredi'"
	<miklos-sUDqSbJrdHQHWmgEVkV9KA@public.gmane.org>,
	"'NeilBrown'" <neilb-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>,
	"'Linux Kernel'"
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"'Christoph Hellwig'"
	<hch-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>,
	"'Linux-Fsdevel'"
	<linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"'Ganesha NFS List'"
	<nfs-ganesha-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>
Subject: RE: [Nfs-ganesha-devel] name_to_handle_at() and persistent	filesystem IDs
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 10:01:03 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <009901cf4202$7c310970$74931c50$@mindspring.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8761netc3z.fsf-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>

> Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes:
> 
> > Hello Aneesh,
> >
> > I'm currently working on a man page for name_to_handle_at() and
> > open_by_handle_at(), and I have a question relating to a point that
> > probably needs to be covered in the man page.
> >
> > Back in July 2010, in this thread:
> > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.file-systems/41782/focus=43131
> > you said:
> >
> > [[
> > mount id should not be looked at as a persistent identifier. It should
> > be used to derive a persistent identifier from /proc/self/mountinfo.
> > The persistent identifier could be the combination of device
> > properties, file system properties or the uuid which is going to be an
> > optional tag in /proc/self/mountinfo.
> > ]]
> >
> > In the man page, I'd like to briefly describe how one derives such a
> > persistent ID from mountinfo. AFAICS, the optional UUID tag in
> > /proc/self/mountinfo has not come to pass. So, what then is the
> > recommended practice for deriving the persistent ID?
> >
> 
> Anything that work for the application. mount_id will indicate which mount
it
> is ie. from /proc/self/mountinfo
> 
> 30 20 8:1 / /boot rw,relatime - ext4 /dev/sda1 rw,data=ordered
> 
> The value 30 helps us to figure out that we are looking at device
/dev/sda1.
> With that we can derive the uuid using libblkid.  I am not sure we
concluded
> anything really about how to identify an nfs mount. May be we can do that
> based on server and mount point details ?.But from the syscall point, what
> we return is mount_id, which gives a hint regarding which mount point we
> are talking about in /proc/self/mountinfo. From that information
applications
> can use any method that work for them to derivce an unique identifier.
> 
> I know that NFS ganesha use these syscall. May we can check with them
> what worked for them ? (Added to CC:)

Ganesha ignores the mount id. It's not really clear how it would be used
(would it help detect file system junctions?) since it isn't required on
open_by_handle_at, it's just a return param from name_to_handle_at.

Frank

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      parent reply	other threads:[~2014-03-17 17:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-16  7:43 name_to_handle_at() and persistent filesystem IDs Michael Kerrisk
     [not found] ` <CAHO5Pa0Y8r1DxHTc0YN-4geoLJ3JYwHT99EcuaGL6k++ek+aEQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-16 15:08   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2014-03-17 16:16     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]     ` <8761netc3z.fsf-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-17 17:01       ` Frank Filz [this message]

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