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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Khalid Aziz <khalid.aziz@oracle.com>
Cc: willy@infradead.org, aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com, arnd@arndb.de,
	21cnbao@gmail.com, corbet@lwn.net, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com,
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	keescook@chromium.org, kirill@shutemov.name, kucharsk@gmail.com,
	linkinjeon@kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	longpeng2@huawei.com, luto@kernel.org, markhemm@googlemail.com,
	pcc@google.com, rppt@kernel.org, sieberf@amazon.com,
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	yzaikin@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/9] Add support for shared PTEs across processes
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2022 13:47:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0864a811-53c8-a87b-a32d-d6f4c7945caa@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220701212403.77ab8139b6e1aca87fae119e@linux-foundation.org>

On 02.07.22 06:24, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 16:53:51 -0600 Khalid Aziz <khalid.aziz@oracle.com> wrote:
> 
>> This patch series implements a mechanism in kernel to allow
>> userspace processes to opt into sharing PTEs. It adds a new
>> in-memory filesystem - msharefs. 
> 
> Dumb question: why do we need a new filesystem for this?  Is it not
> feasible to permit PTE sharing for mmaps of tmpfs/xfs/ext4/etc files?
> 

IIRC, the general opinion at LSF/MM was that this approach at hand is
makes people nervous and I at least am not convinced that we really want
to have this upstream.

What's *completely* missing from the cover letter are the dirty details:
"Actual data is mmap'ed using anonymous pages, ext4/xfs/btfrfs/etc
files.". Gah.

As raised already, "anonymous pages" makes me shiver.


(To me, what I read, this looks like an RFC to me, yet I see "v2". But I
am a little confused why most of the feedback at LSF/MM seems to be
ignored and people are moving forward with this approach. But maybe my
memory is wrong.)

Please, let's look into more generic page table sharing just like
hugetlb already provides to some degree. And if we need additional
alignment requirements to share multiple page table levels, then let's
look into that as well for special users.

-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-07-08 11:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-29 22:53 [PATCH v2 0/9] Add support for shared PTEs across processes Khalid Aziz
2022-06-29 22:53 ` [PATCH v2 1/9] mm: Add msharefs filesystem Khalid Aziz
2022-06-30 21:53   ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-07-01 16:05     ` Khalid Aziz
2022-06-30 22:57   ` Al Viro
2022-07-01 16:08     ` Khalid Aziz
2022-06-29 22:53 ` [PATCH v2 2/9] mm/mshare: pre-populate msharefs with information file Khalid Aziz
2022-06-30 21:37   ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-06-30 22:54     ` Khalid Aziz
2022-06-30 23:01   ` Al Viro
2022-07-01 16:11     ` Khalid Aziz
2022-06-29 22:53 ` [PATCH v2 3/9] mm/mshare: make msharefs writable and support directories Khalid Aziz
2022-06-30 21:34   ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-06-30 22:49     ` Khalid Aziz
2022-06-30 23:09   ` Al Viro
2022-07-02  0:22     ` Khalid Aziz
2022-06-29 22:53 ` [PATCH v2 4/9] mm/mshare: Add a read operation for msharefs files Khalid Aziz
2022-06-30 21:27   ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-06-30 22:27     ` Khalid Aziz
2022-06-29 22:53 ` [PATCH v2 5/9] mm/mshare: Add vm flag for shared PTE Khalid Aziz
2022-06-30 14:59   ` Mark Hemment
2022-06-30 15:46     ` Khalid Aziz
2022-06-29 22:53 ` [PATCH v2 6/9] mm/mshare: Add mmap operation Khalid Aziz
2022-06-30 21:44   ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-06-30 23:30     ` Khalid Aziz
2022-06-29 22:53 ` [PATCH v2 7/9] mm/mshare: Add unlink and munmap support Khalid Aziz
2022-06-30 21:50   ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-07-01 15:58     ` Khalid Aziz
2022-06-29 22:53 ` [PATCH v2 8/9] mm/mshare: Add basic page table sharing support Khalid Aziz
2022-07-07  9:13   ` Xin Hao
2022-07-07 15:33     ` Khalid Aziz
2022-06-29 22:54 ` [PATCH v2 9/9] mm/mshare: Enable mshare region mapping across processes Khalid Aziz
2022-06-30 11:57 ` [PATCH v2 0/9] Add support for shared PTEs " Mark Hemment
2022-06-30 15:39   ` Khalid Aziz
2022-07-02  4:24 ` Andrew Morton
2022-07-06 19:26   ` Khalid Aziz
2022-07-08 11:47   ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2022-07-08 19:36     ` Khalid Aziz
2022-07-13 14:00       ` David Hildenbrand
2022-07-13 17:58         ` Mike Kravetz
2022-07-13 18:03           ` David Hildenbrand
2022-07-14 22:02         ` Khalid Aziz
2022-07-18 12:59           ` David Hildenbrand

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