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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Chao Peng <chao.p.peng@linux.intel.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
	Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>,
	Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
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	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	"J . Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Yu Zhang <yu.c.zhang@linux.intel.com>,
	"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	luto@kernel.org, john.ji@intel.com, susie.li@intel.com,
	jun.nakajima@intel.com, dave.hansen@intel.com,
	ak@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 01/16] mm/shmem: Introduce F_SEAL_INACCESSIBLE
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 16:56:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0893e873-20c4-7e07-e7e4-3971dbb79118@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220106130638.GB43371@chaop.bj.intel.com>

On 06.01.22 14:06, Chao Peng wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 04, 2022 at 03:22:07PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 23.12.21 13:29, Chao Peng wrote:
>>> From: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
>>>
>>> Introduce a new seal F_SEAL_INACCESSIBLE indicating the content of
>>> the file is inaccessible from userspace in any possible ways like
>>> read(),write() or mmap() etc.
>>>
>>> It provides semantics required for KVM guest private memory support
>>> that a file descriptor with this seal set is going to be used as the
>>> source of guest memory in confidential computing environments such
>>> as Intel TDX/AMD SEV but may not be accessible from host userspace.
>>>
>>> At this time only shmem implements this seal.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Kirill A. Shutemov <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
>>> Signed-off-by: Chao Peng <chao.p.peng@linux.intel.com>
>>> ---
>>>  include/uapi/linux/fcntl.h |  1 +
>>>  mm/shmem.c                 | 37 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
>>>  2 files changed, 36 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/fcntl.h b/include/uapi/linux/fcntl.h
>>> index 2f86b2ad6d7e..e2bad051936f 100644
>>> --- a/include/uapi/linux/fcntl.h
>>> +++ b/include/uapi/linux/fcntl.h
>>> @@ -43,6 +43,7 @@
>>>  #define F_SEAL_GROW	0x0004	/* prevent file from growing */
>>>  #define F_SEAL_WRITE	0x0008	/* prevent writes */
>>>  #define F_SEAL_FUTURE_WRITE	0x0010  /* prevent future writes while mapped */
>>> +#define F_SEAL_INACCESSIBLE	0x0020  /* prevent file from accessing */
>>
>> I think this needs more clarification: the file content can still be
>> accessed using in-kernel mechanisms such as MEMFD_OPS for KVM. It
>> effectively disallows traditional access to a file (read/write/mmap)
>> that will result in ordinary MMU access to file content.
>>
>> Not sure how to best clarify that: maybe, prevent ordinary MMU access
>> (e.g., read/write/mmap) to file content?
> 
> Or: prevent userspace access (e.g., read/write/mmap) to file content?

The issue with that phrasing is that userspace will be able to access
that content, just via a different mechanism eventually ... e.g., via
the KVM MMU indirectly. If that makes it clearer what I mean :)

>>
>>>  /* (1U << 31) is reserved for signed error codes */
>>>  
>>>  /*
>>> diff --git a/mm/shmem.c b/mm/shmem.c
>>> index 18f93c2d68f1..faa7e9b1b9bc 100644
>>> --- a/mm/shmem.c
>>> +++ b/mm/shmem.c
>>> @@ -1098,6 +1098,10 @@ static int shmem_setattr(struct user_namespace *mnt_userns,
>>>  		    (newsize > oldsize && (info->seals & F_SEAL_GROW)))
>>>  			return -EPERM;
>>>  
>>> +		if ((info->seals & F_SEAL_INACCESSIBLE) &&
>>> +		    (newsize & ~PAGE_MASK))
>>> +			return -EINVAL;
>>> +
>>
>> What happens when sealing and there are existing mmaps?
> 
> I think this is similar to ftruncate, in either case we just allow that.
> The existing mmaps will be unmapped and KVM will be notified to
> invalidate the mapping in the secondary MMU as well. This assume we
> trust the userspace even though it can not access the file content.

Can't we simply check+forbid instead?

-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb


  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-13 15:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-23 12:29 [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 00/16] KVM: mm: fd-based approach for supporting KVM guest private memory Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:29 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 01/16] mm/shmem: Introduce F_SEAL_INACCESSIBLE Chao Peng
2022-01-04 14:22   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-01-06 13:06     ` Chao Peng
2022-01-13 15:56       ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2021-12-23 12:29 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 02/16] mm/memfd: Introduce MFD_INACCESSIBLE flag Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:29 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 03/16] mm/memfd: Introduce MEMFD_OPS Chao Peng
2021-12-24  3:53   ` Robert Hoo
2021-12-31  2:38     ` Chao Peng
2022-01-04 17:38       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-05  6:07         ` Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:29 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 04/16] KVM: Extend the memslot to support fd-based private memory Chao Peng
2021-12-23 17:35   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-12-31  2:53     ` Chao Peng
2022-01-04 17:34       ` Sean Christopherson
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 05/16] KVM: Maintain ofs_tree for fast memslot lookup by file offset Chao Peng
2021-12-23 18:02   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-12-24  3:54     ` Chao Peng
2021-12-27 23:50       ` Yao Yuan
2021-12-28 21:48       ` Sean Christopherson
2021-12-31  2:26         ` Chao Peng
2022-01-04 17:43           ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-05  6:09             ` Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 06/16] KVM: Implement fd-based memory using MEMFD_OPS interfaces Chao Peng
2021-12-23 18:34   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-12-23 23:09     ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-24  4:25       ` Chao Peng
2021-12-28 22:14         ` Sean Christopherson
2021-12-24  4:12     ` Chao Peng
2021-12-24  4:22     ` Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 07/16] KVM: Refactor hva based memory invalidation code Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 08/16] KVM: Special handling for fd-based memory invalidation Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 09/16] KVM: Split out common memory invalidation code Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 10/16] KVM: Implement fd-based memory invalidation Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 11/16] KVM: Add kvm_map_gfn_range Chao Peng
2021-12-23 18:06   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-12-24  4:13     ` Chao Peng
2021-12-31  2:33       ` Chao Peng
2022-01-04 17:31         ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-05  6:14           ` Chao Peng
2022-01-05 17:03             ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-06 12:35               ` Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 12/16] KVM: Implement fd-based memory fallocation Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 13/16] KVM: Add KVM_EXIT_MEMORY_ERROR exit Chao Peng
2021-12-23 18:28   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 14/16] KVM: Handle page fault for private memory Chao Peng
2022-01-04  1:46   ` Yan Zhao
2022-01-04  9:10     ` Chao Peng
2022-01-04 10:06       ` Yan Zhao
2022-01-05  6:28         ` Chao Peng
2022-01-05  7:53           ` Yan Zhao
2022-01-05 20:52             ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-14  5:53               ` Yan Zhao
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 15/16] KVM: Use kvm_userspace_memory_region_ext Chao Peng
2021-12-23 12:30 ` [PATCH v3 kvm/queue 16/16] KVM: Register/unregister private memory slot to memfd Chao Peng

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