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From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, liam@infradead.org, ljs@kernel.org,
	vbabka@kernel.org, willy@infradead.org, jannh@google.com,
	paulmck@kernel.org, pfalcato@suse.de, shuah@kernel.org,
	hsukrut3@gmail.com, richard.weiyang@gmail.com,
	reddybalavignesh9979@gmail.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/3] use vma locks for proc/pid/{smaps|numa_maps} reads
Date: Wed, 13 May 2026 09:39:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0ce6071b-0c99-4119-9ab4-a2d9c00b99a8@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJuCfpG3xZhL94E=yR1KsWs6fVwcdoAECoOaV3UOeB10TXmOeg@mail.gmail.com>

On 5/13/26 05:58, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> On Tue, May 12, 2026 at 2:28 AM David Hildenbrand (Arm)
> <david@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 4/26/26 08:27, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
>>> Use per-vma locks when reading /proc/pid/smaps and /proc/pid/numa_maps
>>> similar to /proc/pid/maps to reduce contention on central mmap_lock. One
>>> major difference between maps and smaps/numa_maps reading is that the
>>> latter executes page table walk which can't be done under RCU due to a
>>> possibility of sleeping. Therefore we drop RCU read lock before this walk
>>> while keeping the VMA locked. After the walk we retake RCU read lock,
>>> reset VMA iterator and proceed with the next VMA.
>>
>> With many small VMAs, is that overhead noticable?
> 
> It might be but the point of this patchset (and the previous one that
> made a similar change for /proc/pid/maps) is to reduce mmap_lock
> contention, not to speed up the read operation, which is not a
> performance critical part.

Well, this interface has been around .. forever, so if there is a noticeable
change in performance it should be called out.

> The original problem that Paul McKenney
> described and which kicked these series of changes is that a
> low-priority monitoring process reading /proc/pid/{maps|smaps|...} can
> block a high-priority updates by holding the mmap_lock. You can see
> details about this problem and the numbers Paul obtained with the
> previous change in here:
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250719182854.3166724-1-surenb@google.com/

Yes, I know. A problem that has been around ... forever as well :)

-- 
Cheers,

David

      reply	other threads:[~2026-05-13  7:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-26  6:27 [PATCH v2 0/3] use vma locks for proc/pid/{smaps|numa_maps} reads Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-04-26  6:27 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] fs/proc/task_mmu: read proc/pid/{smaps|numa_maps} under per-vma lock Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-04-26  6:27 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] selftests/proc: ensure the test is performed at the right page boundary Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-04-26  6:27 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] selftests/proc: add /proc/pid/smaps tearing tests Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-04-26 19:59 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] use vma locks for proc/pid/{smaps|numa_maps} reads Andrew Morton
2026-05-13  3:50   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-05-12  9:28 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-13  3:58   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-05-13  7:39     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]

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