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From: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>
To: Kanchan Joshi <joshi.k@samsung.com>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: "Martin K . Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Daejun Park <daejun7.park@samsung.com>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 06/19] block, fs: Propagate write hints to the block device inode
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2024 07:29:09 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0d266548-b8dc-473c-9603-41f8adb2d3c1@acm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4f36fc64-a93b-9b2c-7a12-79e25671b375@samsung.com>

On 1/23/24 04:16, Kanchan Joshi wrote:
> On 1/23/2024 1:39 AM, Bart Van Assche wrote:
>> On 1/22/24 01:31, Kanchan Joshi wrote:
>>> On 1/19/2024 7:26 PM, Kanchan Joshi wrote:
>>>> On 1/19/2024 12:24 AM, Bart Van Assche wrote:
>>>>> I think the above proposal would introduce a bug: it would break the
>>>>> F_GET_RW_HINT implementation.
>>>>
>>>> Right. I expected to keep the exact change in GET, too, but that will
>>>> not be free from the side-effect.
>>>> The buffered-write path (block_write_full_page) picks the hint from one
>>>> inode, and the direct-write path (__blkdev_direct_IO_simple) picks the
>>>> hint from a different inode.
>>>> So, updating both seems needed here.
>>>
>>> I stand corrected. It's possible to do away with two updates.
>>> The direct-io code (patch 8) should rather be changed to pick the hint
>>> from bdev inode (and not from file inode).
>>> With that change, this patch only need to set the hint into only one
>>> inode (bdev one). What do you think?
>>
>> I think that would break direct I/O submitted by a filesystem.
> 
> By breakage do you mean not being able to set/get the hint correctly?
> I tested with XFS and Ext4 direct I/O. No breakage.

The approach that you proposed is wrong from a conceptual point of view.
Zero, one or more block devices can be associated with a filesystem. It
would be wrong to try to access all associated block devices from inside
the F_SET_RW_HINT implementation. I don't think that there is any API in
the Linux kernel for iterating over all the block devices associated with
a filesystem.

Bart.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-23 15:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-19  0:07 [PATCH v8 00/19] Pass data lifetime information to SCSI disk devices Bart Van Assche
2023-12-19  0:07 ` [PATCH v8 01/19] fs: Fix rw_hint validation Bart Van Assche
2023-12-19  0:07 ` [PATCH v8 02/19] fs: Verify write lifetime constants at compile time Bart Van Assche
2023-12-19  0:07 ` [PATCH v8 03/19] fs: Split fcntl_rw_hint() Bart Van Assche
2023-12-19  0:07 ` [PATCH v8 04/19] fs: Move enum rw_hint into a new header file Bart Van Assche
2023-12-19  0:07 ` [PATCH v8 05/19] block, fs: Restore the per-bio/request data lifetime fields Bart Van Assche
2024-01-22  9:23   ` Kanchan Joshi
2024-01-22 20:05     ` Bart Van Assche
2024-01-23 12:35       ` Kanchan Joshi
2024-01-23 15:59         ` Bart Van Assche
2023-12-19  0:07 ` [PATCH v8 06/19] block, fs: Propagate write hints to the block device inode Bart Van Assche
2023-12-28  7:12   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-12-28 22:41     ` Bart Van Assche
2024-01-03  9:02       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-01-03 23:09         ` Bart Van Assche
2024-01-04  6:08           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-01-18 18:51           ` Kanchan Joshi
2024-01-18 18:54             ` Bart Van Assche
2024-01-19 13:56               ` Kanchan Joshi
2024-01-22  9:31                 ` Kanchan Joshi
2024-01-22 20:09                   ` Bart Van Assche
2024-01-23 12:16                     ` Kanchan Joshi
2024-01-23 15:29                       ` Bart Van Assche [this message]
2023-12-19  0:07 ` [PATCH v8 07/19] fs/f2fs: Restore the whint_mode mount option Bart Van Assche
2023-12-19  0:07 ` [PATCH v8 08/19] fs/f2fs: Restore support for tracing data lifetimes Bart Van Assche
2023-12-19  0:07 ` [PATCH v8 09/19] scsi: core: Query the Block Limits Extension VPD page Bart Van Assche
2023-12-19  0:07 ` [PATCH v8 10/19] scsi: scsi_proto: Add structures and constants related to I/O groups and streams Bart Van Assche
2023-12-19  0:07 ` [PATCH v8 11/19] scsi: sd: Translate data lifetime information Bart Van Assche
2023-12-19  0:07 ` [PATCH v8 12/19] scsi: scsi_debug: Reduce code duplication Bart Van Assche
2023-12-19  0:07 ` [PATCH v8 13/19] scsi: scsi_debug: Support the block limits extension VPD page Bart Van Assche
2023-12-19  0:07 ` [PATCH v8 14/19] scsi: scsi_debug: Rework page code error handling Bart Van Assche
2023-12-19  0:07 ` [PATCH v8 15/19] scsi: scsi_debug: Rework subpage " Bart Van Assche
2023-12-19  0:07 ` [PATCH v8 16/19] scsi: scsi_debug: Allocate the MODE SENSE response from the heap Bart Van Assche
2023-12-19  0:07 ` [PATCH v8 17/19] scsi: scsi_debug: Implement the IO Advice Hints Grouping mode page Bart Van Assche
2023-12-19  0:07 ` [PATCH v8 18/19] scsi: scsi_debug: Implement GET STREAM STATUS Bart Van Assche
2023-12-19  0:07 ` [PATCH v8 19/19] scsi: scsi_debug: Maintain write statistics per group number Bart Van Assche
2023-12-19  1:12 ` [PATCH v8 00/19] Pass data lifetime information to SCSI disk devices Jens Axboe
2023-12-27 16:25   ` Bart Van Assche

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