From: Pat LaVarre <p.lavarre@ieee.org>
To: adilger@clusterfs.com
Cc: tzachar@cs.bgu.ac.il, jaharkes@cs.cmu.edu, bulb@ucw.cz,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: srfs - a new file system.
Date: 24 Oct 2003 14:52:44 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1067028764.16779.13.camel@patehci2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031024143802.P17778@schatzie.adilger.int>
> There are lots of ways to read back garbage from a disk unrelated to
> physical HDD errors: memory errors, bad cables, software errors (driver,
> fs, vm, etc), bad IDE DMA settings, power failures during write, etc...
Yes, thank you for finding words to express that fact so much more
clearly than I did.
> There are lots of ways to read back garbage from a disk unrelated to
> physical HDD errors: memory errors, bad cables, software errors (driver,
> fs, vm, etc), bad IDE DMA settings, power failures during write, etc...
In particular, I see HDD's vary in their opinion of which cabling and
configuration and protocol is bad. Therefore I ask:
"How can we know how commonly that occurs in practice, so that we can
know how often we're wrong to believe such things as our locally
recorded vector time?"
Is there, as yet, no linux filesystem that preserves the integrity of
the data and metadata despite such failures? If I could write such an
fs on to a single directly-attached local drive, then I could measure
how often I myself experience such failures.
I'm confident I actually do experience these failures because often I
work in comparative, raid-like measures. When I see one drive and
another disagree about what I wrote, then whenever I trust my write and
diff and read tools I must conclude one or both of the HDD's is wrong.
Pat LaVarre
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-10-24 20:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-10-07 4:11 fs test suite Pat LaVarre
2003-10-07 14:17 ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-10-07 14:59 ` Zachary Peterson
2003-10-07 17:16 ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-10-07 18:54 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-10-07 18:58 ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-10-07 19:26 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-10-20 9:12 ` srfs - a new file system Nir Tzachar
2003-10-20 21:00 ` Eric Sandall
2003-10-21 12:07 ` Nir Tzachar
2003-10-21 14:29 ` Brian Beattie
2003-10-21 16:59 ` Jan Harkes
2003-10-23 13:58 ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-24 9:28 ` Nir Tzachar
2003-10-22 4:57 ` Erik Andersen
2003-10-22 10:16 ` Nir Tzachar
2003-10-22 14:22 ` Jan Harkes
2003-10-23 7:50 ` Nir Tzachar
2003-10-23 12:33 ` Jan Hudec
2003-10-23 20:12 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-10-24 9:21 ` Nir Tzachar
2003-10-24 12:08 ` Matthew Wilcox
2003-10-24 19:14 ` Nir Tzachar
2003-10-24 14:38 ` Jan Harkes
2003-10-24 19:16 ` Nir Tzachar
2003-10-24 20:11 ` Andreas Dilger
2003-10-24 20:24 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-10-24 20:38 ` Andreas Dilger
2003-10-24 20:52 ` Pat LaVarre [this message]
2003-10-24 21:00 ` Nir Tzachar
2003-10-24 21:22 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-10-24 23:03 ` Nir Tzachar
2003-10-25 0:23 ` Bryan Henderson
2003-10-25 10:37 ` Nir Tzachar
2003-10-24 21:15 ` Andreas Dilger
2003-10-24 20:53 ` Nir Tzachar
2003-10-25 8:01 ` Jan Hudec
2003-10-22 10:21 ` Nir Tzachar
2003-10-25 9:27 ` Implementing writepage Charles Manning
2003-10-25 16:18 ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-25 22:40 ` Charles Manning
2003-10-26 10:25 ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-26 15:28 ` Matthew Wilcox
2003-10-26 18:47 ` Mark B
2003-10-26 20:40 ` Charles Manning
2003-10-26 21:04 ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-26 20:54 ` Charles Manning
2003-10-27 8:34 ` Nikita Danilov
2003-10-27 8:39 ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-27 8:43 ` Nikita Danilov
2003-10-27 8:46 ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-27 8:52 ` Nikita Danilov
2003-10-27 9:06 ` David Woodhouse
2003-10-27 9:08 ` David Woodhouse
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