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From: Ram Pai <linuxram@us.ibm.com>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk,
	Avantika Mathur <mathurav@us.ibm.com>,
	mike@waychison.com, janak@us.ibm.com,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: mount behavior question.
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:02:19 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1122562938.4715.71.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1Dy6zl-00030c-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu>

On Thu, 2005-07-28 at 04:56, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> > Here is a scenario with shared subtree. Sorry it is complex.
> > 
> > 
> > mount --bind /mnt /mnt
> > mount --make-shared /mnt
> > mkdir -p /mnt/p
> > mount --bind /usr  /mnt/1
> > mount --bind /mnt  /mnt/2
> > 
> > At this stage the mount at /mnt/2 and /mnt belong to the same pnode
> > which means mounts under them propogate to each other.
> > 
> > mount --bind /var /mnt/1
> > 
> > the contents of /var will be visible under /mnt/1 and not under /mnt/2
> > But if mount --bind /var /mnt/2 is executed, the contents of /var is
> > visible under /mnt/1 as well as /mnt/2 . Isn't this freaky?
> 
> I don't understand.
> 
> 'mount --bind /var /mnt/1' should propagate to /mnt/2/1, not /mnt/2. 

yes it should propogate to /mnt/2/1 , thats what I meant when I said
under /mnt/2, but yes I was not clear. Hope I have a clearer
explanation below.

>  No?
> 
> 'mount --bind /var/ /mnt/2' should propagate to /mnt.  What am I
> missing?


step 1: mount --bind /mnt /mnt
            a new mount 'A' is created at /mnt

step 2: mount --make-shared /mnt
           mounts under 'A' are made shared. But in this case
       there are no other mounts. So only 'A' will be made shared.
          
         
step 3: mkdir -p /mnt/1 /mnt/2
		nothing special here
		
step 4: mount --bind /usr  /mnt/1
                a new mount 'B' is created  at /mnt/1 which is
		 'shared;.
                		

step 5: mount --bind /mnt  /mnt/2

		a new mount 'C' is created at /mnt/2
		and propogation is set between 'A' and 'C'.
		note: 'C' is made shared.



lets say, at this point I try 
		mount --bind /var /mnt/1

	this is going to mount 'D' on top of mount 'B'.  However
	there is no other mount to which 'B' propogates to. So that is 
	it. the contents of /var is only visible at /mnt/1 and it
	 propogates no where else.

but lets say, we tried mount --bind /var /mnt/2/1
	/mnt/2/1 belongs to mount 'C'. And mounts under 'C' propogates to 'A'
too. So in this case a new mount 'E' is created at mnt/1/2
i.e on top of 'C' at dentry '2'  and due to propogation a new mount
'F' is created at /mnt/1 i.e on top of mount 'A' at dentry '1'
 But note: /mnt/1 already has a mount 'B' on top of it.   The new mount
'F' as per the 'most-current mount rule' obscures 'B' even though the
mount is on top of 'A'. As a result the contents of /var are now
visible both at /mnt/2/1 and /mnt/1


Ok the net effect is, mount at /mnt/1 is visible only under /mnt/1
but mount at /mnt/2/1 is visible at mount /mnt/2/1 and /mnt/1
This makes it confusing. If the 'top-most mount rule' is applied
'F' though mounted on 'A', will not be visible because it will get 
obscured by 'B' and the confusion is avoided.

So the point I am driving at is, is there any special reason 
for having 'most-recent mount visible rule' instead of 'top-most mount
visible rule'?
RP


> Miklos


  reply	other threads:[~2005-07-28 15:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-07-25 22:44 (unknown) Ram Pai
2005-07-25 22:44 ` (unknown) Ram Pai
2005-07-25 22:44 ` (unknown) Ram Pai
2005-07-25 22:44 ` (unknown) Ram Pai
2005-07-25 22:44 ` (unknown) Ram Pai
2005-07-25 22:44 ` (unknown) Ram Pai
2005-07-25 22:44 ` (unknown) Ram Pai
2005-07-25 22:44 ` (unknown) Ram Pai
2005-07-26  2:53 ` supposed to be shared subtree patches Ram Pai
     [not found] ` <20050725225908.031752000@localhost>
2005-07-27 19:13   ` [PATCH 3/7] shared subtree Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-27 20:30     ` Ram Pai
2005-07-28  8:34       ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found] ` <20050725225907.007405000@localhost>
2005-07-27 19:54   ` [PATCH 1/7] " Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-27 21:39     ` Ram Pai
2005-07-28  7:35       ` mount behavior question Ram Pai
2005-07-28 11:56         ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-28 15:02           ` Ram Pai [this message]
2005-07-28 15:58             ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-28 18:22               ` Ram Pai
2005-07-28 19:30                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-28 20:09                   ` Ram Pai
2005-07-28 20:44                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-28 20:59                       ` Ram Pai
2005-07-28 18:27         ` Bryan Henderson
2005-07-28 19:01           ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-28 20:35             ` Bryan Henderson
2005-07-28 20:42               ` Ram Pai
2005-07-28 22:27                 ` Bryan Henderson
2005-07-28 22:59                   ` Ram Pai
2005-07-28 20:53               ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-28 22:51                 ` Bryan Henderson
2005-07-28  9:57       ` [PATCH 1/7] shared subtree Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-29 19:54         ` Ram Pai
2005-07-30  5:39           ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-31  0:45             ` Ram Pai
2005-07-31  7:52               ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-07-31  8:25                 ` Miklos Szeredi

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