From: Ram Pai <linuxram@us.ibm.com>
To: William H Taber <wtaber@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net>,
autofs mailing list <autofs@linux.kernel.org>,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [autofs] [RFC PATCH]autofs4: hang and proposed fix
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:57:45 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1132340265.5720.191.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <437E0B62.4000306@us.ibm.com>
On Fri, 2005-11-18 at 09:12, William H. Taber wrote:
> Ian Kent wrote:
> > On Fri, 18 Nov 2005, William H. Taber wrote:
> >>
> >>No, it is actually a little more subtle than that. The problem is that since
> >>you can be called from two code paths, one of which get's the lock and one of
> >>them doesn't, you are stuck if you find that the lock is held because you
> >>don't know who holds it. The danger is that some innocent third party is
> >>holding the lock and counting on being protected by it. If you release the
> >>lock, then you can be creating the potential for a race in their code and
> >>there would be no way to detect it. Their code path would look correct
> >>because it is. Not only that but the lock itself could get confused because
> >>it would have more unlocks than locks, because presumably the process that
> >>thinks it has the lock would eventually unlock as well. I don't know how the
> >>semaphores are implemented on all architectures so I don't know if that would
> >>be an actual problem or not but it I would be surprised if they all handled
> >>that case gracefully.
> >
> >
> > Yes. Thinking about it I hadn't considered the third process.
> >
> > How can we get advice on this?
> >
> > Ian
> >
> Hey, I'm new here. I came here looking for advice. :^)
> However, if there is no way to fix this in the autofs code then the only
> alternative is to fix the locking in the VFS. So VFS folks, which is
> the better solution. Should all callers to d_revalidate get the
> parent's i_sem lock or should d_revalidate never be called with the
> parent i_sem lock and so we need to change lookup_one_len so that it
> does not expect the parent i_sem lock to be held?
I think the problem is with cached_lookup(). It is the only place which
calls ->revalidate() holding the parent's inode-semaphore AFAICT.
note: cached_lookup() is only called from __lookup_hash() and
__lookup_hash() is always called holding the semaphore.
VFS experts agree?
RP
>
> Will Taber
>
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>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-11-18 18:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-11-16 10:17 [RFC PATCH]autofs4: hang and proposed fix Ram Pai
2005-11-16 12:41 ` [autofs] " Ian Kent
2005-11-16 16:50 ` Ram Pai
2005-11-16 22:57 ` Ian Kent
2005-11-17 1:52 ` [autofs] " Ram Pai
2005-11-17 18:50 ` Ian Kent
2005-11-17 19:19 ` William H. Taber
2005-11-17 20:39 ` Ram Pai
2005-11-17 22:31 ` William H. Taber
2005-11-18 14:57 ` Ian Kent
2005-11-18 14:54 ` Ian Kent
2005-11-18 14:44 ` Ian Kent
2005-11-18 15:20 ` William H. Taber
2005-11-18 16:30 ` Ian Kent
2005-11-18 17:12 ` William H. Taber
2005-11-18 18:57 ` Ram Pai [this message]
2005-11-18 20:08 ` William H. Taber
2005-11-19 2:52 ` Ian Kent
2005-11-21 16:40 ` William H. Taber
2005-11-22 13:13 ` Ian Kent
2005-11-22 17:48 ` [autofs] " William H. Taber
2005-11-23 14:11 ` Ian Kent
2005-11-23 16:42 ` William H. Taber
2005-11-23 17:52 ` Ian Kent
2005-11-23 18:47 ` William H. Taber
2005-11-19 1:40 ` Ian Kent
2005-11-16 15:22 ` Jeff Moyer
2005-11-16 17:00 ` [autofs] " Ram Pai
2005-11-16 18:25 ` Jeff Moyer
2005-11-16 19:24 ` William H. Taber
2005-11-16 19:51 ` Ram Pai
2005-11-27 10:47 ` Ian Kent
2005-11-28 17:19 ` William H. Taber
2005-11-28 23:12 ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-11-29 14:19 ` Ian Kent
2005-11-29 16:34 ` William H. Taber
2005-11-30 14:02 ` Ian Kent
2005-11-30 16:49 ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-11-30 17:04 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-11-30 21:10 ` William H. Taber
2005-11-29 14:20 ` Ian Kent
2005-11-30 1:16 ` [autofs] " Jeff Moyer
2005-11-30 1:56 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-11-30 4:15 ` Jeff Moyer
2005-11-30 6:14 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-11-30 15:44 ` Ian Kent
2005-11-30 15:53 ` [autofs] " Trond Myklebust
2005-11-30 16:12 ` Ian Kent
2005-11-30 16:27 ` Ian Kent
2005-11-30 16:45 ` [autofs] " Trond Myklebust
2005-11-30 20:32 ` William H. Taber
2005-11-30 20:53 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-11-30 21:30 ` William H. Taber
2005-11-30 22:32 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-01 16:27 ` William H. Taber
2005-12-01 12:09 ` Ian Kent
2005-12-01 16:30 ` William H. Taber
2005-12-02 13:49 ` Ian Kent
2005-12-02 14:07 ` Jeff Moyer
2005-12-02 15:21 ` Ian Kent
2005-12-02 16:35 ` [autofs] " Will Taber
2005-12-02 17:11 ` Ian Kent
2005-12-02 15:34 ` Will Taber
2005-12-02 17:29 ` Ian Kent
2005-12-02 18:12 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-04 12:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-04 12:57 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-04 14:58 ` Ian Kent
2005-12-04 17:17 ` [autofs] " Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-05 14:02 ` Ian Kent
2005-12-06 21:20 ` Jeff Moyer
2005-12-06 21:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-06 22:37 ` Jeff Moyer
2005-12-07 14:52 ` Will Taber
2005-12-07 15:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-07 15:22 ` Brian Long
2005-12-07 15:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-07 17:46 ` Will Taber
2005-12-08 14:16 ` Ian Kent
2005-12-09 12:12 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-09 13:33 ` John T. Kohl
2005-12-13 18:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-04 14:56 ` Ian Kent
2005-12-02 19:04 ` [autofs] " Will Taber
2005-12-04 9:39 ` Ian Kent
2005-12-02 16:04 ` [autofs] " Jeff Moyer
2005-12-02 17:36 ` Ian Kent
2005-12-02 18:33 ` [autofs] " Will Taber
2005-12-04 9:52 ` Ian Kent
2005-12-04 14:54 ` Ian Kent
2005-12-05 15:40 ` Ian Kent
2005-11-30 14:48 ` [autofs] " Ian Kent
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