From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Lee Revell Subject: Re: [RFC] VM: I have a dream... Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 00:11:46 -0500 Message-ID: <1138252307.3087.110.camel@mindpipe> References: <200601240211.k0O28rnn003165@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> <1138181033.4800.4.camel@tara.firmix.at> <20060125150516.GB8490@mail.shareable.org> <1138231714.3087.66.camel@mindpipe> <20060126050147.GB23296@mail.shareable.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Bernd Petrovitsch , Horst von Brand , "linux-os (Dick Johnson)" , Diego Calleja , Ram Gupta , mloftis@wgops.com, barryn@pobox.com, a1426z@gawab.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org Return-path: To: Jamie Lokier In-Reply-To: <20060126050147.GB23296@mail.shareable.org> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-Id: linux-fsdevel.vger.kernel.org On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 05:01 +0000, Jamie Lokier wrote: > Lee Revell wrote: > > > Mozilla / Firefox / Opera in particular. 300MB is not funny on a > > > laptop which cannot be expanded beyond 192MB. Are there any usable > > > graphical _small_ web browsers around? Usable meaning actually works > > > on real web sites with fancy features. > > > > "Small" and "fancy features" are not compatible. > > > > That's the problem with the term "usable" - to developers it means > > "supports the basic core functionality of a web browser" while to users > > it means "supports every bell and whistle that I get on Windows". > > As both a developer and user, all I want is a web browser that works > with the sites I visit, and performs reasonably well on my laptop. > > I know there are fast algorithms for layout, for running scripts and > updating trees, and the memory usage doesn't have to be anywhere near > as much as it is. > > So it's reasonable to ask if anyone has written a fast browser that > works with current popular sites in fits in under 256MB after a few > days use. > > Unfortunately, the response seems to be no, nobody has. I guess it's > a big job and there isn't the interest and resourcing to do it. > What's wrong with Firefox? USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND rlrevell 6423 6.7 16.7 167676 73804 ? Sl Jan25 79:41 /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -a firefox 73MB is not bad. Obviously if you open 20 tabs, it will take a lot more memory, as it's going to have to cache all the rendered pages. Lee