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From: Robert S Peterson <rpeterso@redhat.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Anton Altaparmakov <aia21@cam.ac.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	fs-devel mailing list <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] loop.c to use write ops for fs requiring special locking
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:10:11 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1143677411.26193.43.camel@technetium.msp.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060329090503.GA7940@infradead.org>

On Wed, 2006-03-29 at 10:05 +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> adding flags adds special cases.  in this particular case it adds a special
> case to hack around a leaking abstraction.  the right thing is to fix that
> leaky abstraction as I said in my previous mail.  please go ahead and add 
> a proper abstraction at the file operation level that
> gets rid of this leaky abstraction instead of adding a kludge ontop of an
> existing one.

I considered doing this, but as I said, it would require the underlying
fs to use its own versions of 3,4,5, and 6, thus bypassing a great deal
of vfs.  Replacing 3,4,5 and 6 is certainly an option, but why change
200 lines of code when a problem can simply be fixed by 1 line of
code?  That seems like exposing a lot of people to a lot of unnecessary
risk to me.  I just can't justify replacing my car's entire engine
because one spark plug is misfiring.

loop.c already has the capability to use the write method rather than
the prepare_write/commit_write method.  So what is so wrong with giving
the underlying fs the ability to decide which with a flag?
My patch already received a thumbs up from Anton Altaparmakov, and I've
discussed the matter with Heinz M. as well, both of whom have changed
loop.c.

One flag does not make the kernel "unmaintainable."  I strongly believe
that the "right thing to do" in this case is to add this constant.

> such crap might be acceptable inside redhat, but in kernel land it never
> was so this never would be even considered an option.

Christoph, I would have hoped that a man of your obvious intelligence
would not resort to name calling, especially in the open-source
Community (with a capital C).  I expected more from you.



  reply	other threads:[~2006-03-30  0:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-27 21:52 [PATCH] loop.c to use write ops for fs requiring special locking Robert S Peterson
2006-03-28  0:44 ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-28 15:33   ` Robert S Peterson
2006-03-28 19:27     ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-28 14:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-03-28 15:59   ` Robert S Peterson
2006-03-29  9:05     ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-03-30  0:10       ` Robert S Peterson [this message]
2006-03-30 14:15         ` Christoph Hellwig
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-03-01 16:48 [patch] " Robert S Peterson
2006-03-01 22:09 ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-02 10:16   ` Anton Altaparmakov
2006-03-10 23:04     ` Robert S Peterson
2006-03-10 23:13       ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-11  0:36         ` Anton Altaparmakov

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