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From: Dave Kleikamp <shaggy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] ensure i_ino uniqueness in filesystems without permanent inode numbers (via pointer conversion)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 09:01:25 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1163775685.17280.13.camel@kleikamp.austin.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1163774903.13410.68.camel@dantu.rdu.redhat.com>

On Fri, 2006-11-17 at 09:48 -0500, Jeff Layton wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-11-17 at 07:24 -0700, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > I *think* the xor mask is mere obfuscation.  It looks likely that you can
> > recover it with a little bit of trial and error.  If you can force the
> > filesystem to hand you back new inodes quickly such that there is a high
> > probability you get consecutive allocations, you'll get a sequence which
> > would be spaced 700-odd bytes apart, except that it's been xored.  Since
> > you know it's incrementing, if you see the sequence decrease, you'll
> > know that was a 1 in that bit.
> 
> I think you're right, the addresses would often be sequential, so this
> is probably crackable. 

Wouldn't you only be able to only crack a few of the low-order bits due
to a cluster of inodes being sequential?  I don't think you'd be able
crack enough of it to be useful.  You may be able to determine where
some inodes are relative to others, but I don't think you'd be able to
point the their location in memory.  I don't know anything about crypto,
so I could be wrong.

> I'll look over the md5 routines when I get the
> chance, though if someone more cryptographically inclined than I has a
> different suggestion, I'd love to hear it.
> -- Jeff

Shaggy
-- 
David Kleikamp
IBM Linux Technology Center


  reply	other threads:[~2006-11-17 15:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-11-17 13:43 [RFC][PATCH] ensure i_ino uniqueness in filesystems without permanent inode numbers (via pointer conversion) Jeff Layton
2006-11-17 13:50 ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-11-17 14:14   ` Jörn Engel
2006-11-17 14:24     ` Jeff Layton
2006-11-17 14:21   ` Jeff Layton
2006-11-17 16:31     ` Jeff Layton
2006-11-17 14:24 ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-11-17 14:48   ` Jeff Layton
2006-11-17 15:01     ` Dave Kleikamp [this message]
2006-11-17 15:06       ` Jeff Layton
2006-11-17 15:26         ` Dave Kleikamp

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