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From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, staubach@redhat.com,
	hugh@veritas.com
Subject: Re: [patch 2/8] update ctime and mtime for mmaped write
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 23:07:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1173218843.4718.38.camel@lappy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1173217621.4718.27.camel@lappy>

On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 22:47 +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 22:24 +0100, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> > > I'm not liking this, its not a constant operation as the name implies.
> > 
> > OK, I'll think of something better.
> > 
> > > And it style is a bit out of line with the rest of rmap.
> > > 
> > > The thing it actually does is page_mkclean(), all it doesn't do is
> > > setting the pte read-only.
> > > 
> > > I can understand you wanting to avoid the overhead of the minor faults
> > > resulting from using page_mkclean(), but I'm not sure its worth it.
> > 
> > It would be nice if the cost of MS_ASYNC wouldn't be too high.  And I
> > do have the feeling that minor faults are far more expensive than
> > cleaning the dirty bit in the ptes.
> > 
> > Do you have any numbers?
> 
> None what so ever, but I always think of msync as a rare function
> (infrequent when compared to (minor) faults overall). But I don't have
> numbers backing that up either.
> 
> Also, the radix tree scan you do isn't exactly cheap either. 
> 
> So what I was wondering is whether its worth optimizing this at the cost
> of another rmap walker. (one with very dubious semantics at that - it
> clears the pte dirty bit but doesn't particularly care about that nor
> does it respect the PG_dirty / PTE dirty relation)

What this functionality requires is that MS_ASYNC is a full barrier wrt.
dirtyness. That is, we want to call set_page_dirty_mappig() as soon as
we touch a page in a dirtying fashion after MS_{,A}SYNC gets called.

Hence we need the full page_mkclean() functionality, otherwise we don't
set AS_CMTIME again in time.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-03-06 22:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-06 18:04 [patch 0/8] VFS/VM patches Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-06 18:04 ` [patch 1/8] fix race in clear_page_dirty_for_io() Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-06 22:25   ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-06 18:04 ` [patch 2/8] update ctime and mtime for mmaped write Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-06 20:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-06 21:24     ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-06 21:47       ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-06 22:00         ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-06 22:07         ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2007-03-06 22:18           ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-06 22:28             ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-06 22:36               ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-06 18:04 ` [patch 3/8] per backing_dev dirty and writeback page accounting Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-12  6:23   ` David Chinner
2007-03-12 11:40     ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-12 21:44       ` David Chinner
2007-03-12 22:36         ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-12 23:12           ` David Chinner
2007-03-13  8:21             ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-13 22:12               ` David Chinner
2007-03-14 22:09                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-06 18:04 ` [patch 4/8] fix deadlock in balance_dirty_pages Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-06 18:04 ` [patch 5/8] fix deadlock in throttle_vm_writeout Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-06 18:04 ` [patch 6/8] balance dirty pages from loop device Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-06 18:04 ` [patch 7/8] add filesystem subtype support Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-06 18:04 ` [patch 8/8] consolidate generic_writepages and mpage_writepages fix Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07 20:46   ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07 21:26     ` Miklos Szeredi

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