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From: Ian Kent <raven-PKsaG3nR2I+sTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
To: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Miklos Szeredi <miklos-sUDqSbJrdHQHWmgEVkV9KA@public.gmane.org>,
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	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [patch 0/8] unprivileged mount syscall
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 22:27:12 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1176301632.3377.9.camel@raven.themaw.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070411142608.GC30460-6s5zFf/epYLPQpwDFJZrxKsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>

On Wed, 2007-04-11 at 09:26 -0500, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> Quoting Ian Kent (raven-PKsaG3nR2I+sTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org):
> > On Wed, 2007-04-11 at 12:48 +0200, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> - users can use bind mounts without having to pre-configure them in
> > > > > >>   /etc/fstab
> > > > > >>
> > > > > 
> > > > > This is by far the biggest concern I see.  I think the security 
> > > > > implication of allowing anyone to do bind mounts are poorly understood.
> > > > 
> > > > And especially so since there is no way for a filesystem module to veto
> > > > such requests.
> > > 
> > > The filesystem can't veto initial mounts based on destination either.
> > > I don't think it's up to the filesystem to police bind/move mounts in
> > > any way.
> > 
> > But if a filesystem can't or the developer thinks that it shouldn't for
> > some reason, support bind/move mounts then there should be a way for the
> 
> Can you list some valid reasons why an fs could care where it is
> mounted?  The only thing I could think of is a stackable fs, but it
> shouldn't care whether it is overlay-mounted or not.

For my part, autofs and autofs4.
Moving or binding isn't valid.
I tried to design that limitation out version 5 but wasn't able to.
In time I probably can but couldn't continue to support older versions.

> 
> thanks,
> -serge
> 
> > filesystem to tell the kernel that.
> > 
> > Surely a filesystem is in a good position to be able to decide if a
> > mount request "for it" should be allowed to continue based on it's "own
> > situation and capabilities".
> > 
> > Ian
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-04-11 14:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-04 18:30 [patch 0/8] unprivileged mount syscall Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-04 18:30 ` [patch 1/8] add user mounts to the kernel Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-04 18:30 ` [patch 2/8] allow unprivileged umount Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-04 18:30 ` [patch 3/8] account user mounts Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-04 18:30 ` [patch 4/8] propagate error values from clone_mnt Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-04 18:30 ` [patch 5/8] allow unprivileged bind mounts Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-04 18:30 ` [patch 6/8] put declaration of put_filesystem() in fs.h Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-04 18:30 ` [patch 7/8] allow unprivileged mounts Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-04 18:30 ` [patch 8/8] allow unprivileged fuse mounts Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-09 18:57 ` [patch 0/8] unprivileged mount syscall Serge E. Hallyn
2007-04-09 20:14   ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-09 20:55     ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]       ` <20070409205506.GC20226-6s5zFf/epYLPQpwDFJZrxKsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-11 19:43         ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]           ` <E1Hbiih-00060L-00-VFwzv6uONVrxNFs70CDYszOMxtEWgIxa@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-11 20:05             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-04-11 20:41               ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-11 20:57                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found] ` <20070404183012.429274832-sUDqSbJrdHQHWmgEVkV9KA@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-06 23:02   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-06 23:16     ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-06 23:55       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-07  0:22         ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-07  3:40           ` Eric Van Hensbergen
     [not found]             ` <a4e6962a0704062040q12c0013ek9591b9fbb27caa12-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-07  6:48               ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-10  8:52       ` Ian Kent
     [not found]         ` <1176195125.3476.47.camel-J+SFD3YVfrQ/gntp4R1GGQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-11 10:48           ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-11 13:48             ` Ian Kent
     [not found]               ` <1176299311.3377.6.camel-J+SFD3YVfrQ/gntp4R1GGQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-11 14:26                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                   ` <20070411142608.GC30460-6s5zFf/epYLPQpwDFJZrxKsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-11 14:27                     ` Ian Kent [this message]
     [not found]                       ` <1176301632.3377.9.camel-J+SFD3YVfrQ/gntp4R1GGQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-11 14:45                         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-04-07  6:41     ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]       ` <E1Ha4cN-0004rc-00-VFwzv6uONVrxNFs70CDYszOMxtEWgIxa@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-09 14:38         ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]           ` <20070409143802.GB4891-6s5zFf/epYLPQpwDFJZrxKsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-09 16:24             ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-09 17:07               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-04-09 17:46                 ` Ram Pai
2007-04-09 18:25                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-10 10:33                   ` Karel Zak
2007-04-09 20:10                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-10  8:38                   ` Ram Pai
2007-04-11 10:44                     ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]                       ` <E1HbaJV-00059N-00-VFwzv6uONVrxNFs70CDYszOMxtEWgIxa@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-11 18:28                         ` Ram Pai
     [not found]                           ` <1176316116.2811.39.camel-kj2lFfaA5cHMbYB6QlFGEg@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-13 11:58                             ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]                               ` <E1HcKQd-0001yO-00-VFwzv6uONVrxNFs70CDYszOMxtEWgIxa@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-13 13:28                                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-04-13 14:05                                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-13 21:44                                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                                       ` <20070413214415.GA28629-6s5zFf/epYLPQpwDFJZrxKsjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-15 20:39                                         ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]                                           ` <E1HdBVc-0005pL-00-VFwzv6uONVrxNFs70CDYszOMxtEWgIxa@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-16  1:11                                             ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                                     ` <E1HcMOq-0002As-00-VFwzv6uONVrxNFs70CDYszOMxtEWgIxa@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-16  8:18                                       ` Ram Pai
     [not found]                                         ` <1176711509.9488.4.camel-kj2lFfaA5cHMbYB6QlFGEg@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-16  9:27                                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-16 15:40                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                               ` <m1d524l43w.fsf-T1Yj925okcoyDheHMi7gv2pdwda3JcWeAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-16 15:55                                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-16  7:59                                 ` Ram Pai
2007-04-13 20:07                               ` Karel Zak
     [not found]                                 ` <20070413200720.GS31445-CxBs/XhZ2BtHjqfyn1fVYA@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-15 20:21                                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-09 22:00   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-04-11 10:32     ` Miklos Szeredi

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