From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>,
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Mel Gorman <mel@skynet.ie>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>, Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [15/17] SLUB: Support virtual fallback via SLAB_VFALLBACK
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 10:47:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1191055632.18147.101.camel@lappy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070929011311.8b51dedb.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
On Sat, 2007-09-29 at 01:13 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 20:25:50 +0200 Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 11:20 -0700, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> >
> > > > start 2 processes that each mmap a separate 64M file, and which does
> > > > sequential writes on them. start a 3th process that does the same with
> > > > 64M anonymous.
> > > >
> > > > wait for a while, and you'll see order=1 failures.
> > >
> > > Really? That means we can no longer even allocate stacks for forking.
> > >
> > > Its surprising that neither lumpy reclaim nor the mobility patches can
> > > deal with it? Lumpy reclaim should be able to free neighboring pages to
> > > avoid the order 1 failure unless there are lots of pinned pages.
> > >
> > > I guess then that lots of pages are pinned through I/O?
> >
> > memory got massively fragemented, as anti-frag gets easily defeated.
> > setting min_free_kbytes to 12M does seem to solve it - it forces 2 max
> > order blocks to stay available, so we don't mix types. however 12M on
> > 128M is rather a lot.
> >
> > its still on my todo list to look at it further..
> >
>
> That would be really really bad (as in: patch-dropping time) if those
> order-1 allocations are not atomic.
>
> What's the callsite?
Ah, right, that was the detail... all this lumpy reclaim is useless for
atomic allocations. And with SLUB using higher order pages, atomic !0
order allocations will be very very common.
One I can remember was:
add_to_page_cache()
radix_tree_insert()
radix_tree_node_alloc()
kmem_cache_alloc()
which is an atomic callsite.
Which leaves us in a situation where we can load pages, because there is
free memory, but can't manage to allocate memory to track them..
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-09-29 8:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-09-19 3:36 [00/17] [RFC] Virtual Compound Page Support Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [01/17] Vmalloc: Move vmalloc_to_page to mm/vmalloc Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [02/17] Vmalloc: add const Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [03/17] is_vmalloc_addr(): Check if an address is within the vmalloc boundaries Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 6:32 ` David Rientjes
2007-09-19 7:24 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-09-19 8:09 ` David Rientjes
2007-09-19 8:44 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-09-19 9:19 ` David Rientjes
2007-09-19 13:23 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-09-19 17:29 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 17:52 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-09-19 17:29 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 17:52 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [04/17] vmalloc: clean up page array indexing Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [05/17] vunmap: return page array Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 8:05 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-19 22:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-20 0:47 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [06/17] vmalloc_address(): Determine vmalloc address from page struct Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [07/17] GFP_VFALLBACK: Allow fallback of compound pages to virtual mappings Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [08/17] Pass vmalloc address in page->private Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [09/17] VFALLBACK: Debugging aid Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [10/17] Use GFP_VFALLBACK for sparsemem Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [11/17] GFP_VFALLBACK for zone wait table Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [12/17] Virtual Compound page allocation from interrupt context Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [13/17] Virtual compound page freeing in " Christoph Lameter
2007-09-18 20:36 ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-20 17:50 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [14/17] Allow bit_waitqueue to wait on a bit in a vmalloc area Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 4:12 ` Gabriel C
2007-09-19 17:40 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [15/17] SLUB: Support virtual fallback via SLAB_VFALLBACK Christoph Lameter
2007-09-27 21:42 ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-28 17:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-28 5:14 ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-01 20:50 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-02 8:43 ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-04 16:16 ` SLUB performance regression vs SLAB Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-04 17:38 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-04 17:50 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-04 17:58 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-04 18:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-04 20:48 ` David Miller
2007-10-04 20:58 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-04 21:05 ` David Miller
2007-10-04 21:11 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-04 18:32 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-04 17:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-04 19:28 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-04 19:05 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-04 19:46 ` Siddha, Suresh B
2007-10-04 20:55 ` David Miller
2007-10-04 21:02 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-10-04 21:11 ` David Miller
2007-10-04 21:47 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-10-04 22:07 ` David Miller
2007-10-04 22:23 ` David Chinner
2007-10-05 6:48 ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-05 9:19 ` Pekka Enberg
2007-10-05 9:28 ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-05 11:12 ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-05 12:39 ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-05 19:31 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-05 19:32 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-05 11:56 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-05 12:37 ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-05 19:27 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-05 20:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-05 21:31 ` David Miller
2007-10-04 21:05 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-05 2:43 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-05 2:53 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-09-28 17:55 ` [15/17] SLUB: Support virtual fallback via SLAB_VFALLBACK Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-28 18:20 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-28 18:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-28 18:41 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-28 20:22 ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-28 21:14 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-28 20:59 ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-29 8:13 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-29 8:47 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2007-09-29 8:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-29 9:01 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-29 9:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-29 9:27 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-28 20:19 ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-29 19:20 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-29 19:09 ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-30 20:12 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-30 4:16 ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-29 9:00 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-01 20:55 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-01 21:30 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-01 21:38 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-01 21:45 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-01 21:52 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-02 9:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-29 8:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-01 21:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-02 8:37 ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-28 21:05 ` Mel Gorman
2007-10-01 21:10 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [16/17] Allow virtual fallback for buffer_heads Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 3:36 ` [17/17] Allow virtual fallback for dentries Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 7:34 ` [00/17] [RFC] Virtual Compound Page Support Anton Altaparmakov
2007-09-19 8:34 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-09-19 17:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 8:24 ` Andi Kleen
2007-09-19 17:36 ` Christoph Lameter
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-09-25 23:42 [00/17] Virtual Compound Page Support V1 Christoph Lameter
2007-09-25 23:42 ` [15/17] SLUB: Support virtual fallback via SLAB_VFALLBACK Christoph Lameter
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