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From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>,
	nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au, hch@lst.de, mel@skynet.ie,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	dgc@sgi.com, jens.axboe@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [15/17] SLUB: Support virtual fallback via SLAB_VFALLBACK
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 11:19:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1191316774.13204.50.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071001143047.238dfe49.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

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On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 14:30 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Oct 2007 13:55:29 -0700 (PDT)
> Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 29 Sep 2007, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > 
> > > > atomic allocations. And with SLUB using higher order pages, atomic !0
> > > > order allocations will be very very common.
> > > 
> > > Oh OK.
> > > 
> > > I thought we'd already fixed slub so that it didn't do that.  Maybe that
> > > fix is in -mm but I don't think so.
> > > 
> > > Trying to do atomic order-1 allocations on behalf of arbitray slab caches
> > > just won't fly - this is a significant degradation in kernel reliability,
> > > as you've very easily demonstrated.
> > 
> > Ummm... SLAB also does order 1 allocations. We have always done them.
> > 
> > See mm/slab.c
> > 
> > /*
> >  * Do not go above this order unless 0 objects fit into the slab.
> >  */
> > #define BREAK_GFP_ORDER_HI      1
> > #define BREAK_GFP_ORDER_LO      0
> > static int slab_break_gfp_order = BREAK_GFP_ORDER_LO;
> 
> Do slab and slub use the same underlying page size for each slab?
> 
> Single data point: the CONFIG_SLAB boxes which I have access to here are
> using order-0 for radix_tree_node, so they won't be failing in the way in
> which Peter's machine is.
> 
> I've never ever before seen reports of page allocation failures in the
> radix-tree node allocation code, and that's the bottom line.  This is just
> a drop-dead must-fix show-stopping bug.  We cannot rely upon atomic order-1
> allocations succeeding so we cannot use them for radix-tree nodes.  Nor for
> lots of other things which we have no chance of identifying.
> 
> Peter, is this bug -mm only, or is 2.6.23 similarly failing?

I'm mainly using -mm (so you have at least one tester :-), I think the
-mm specific SLUB patch that ups slub_min_order makes the problem -mm
specific, would have to test .23.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-10-02  9:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-19  3:36 [00/17] [RFC] Virtual Compound Page Support Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19  3:36 ` [01/17] Vmalloc: Move vmalloc_to_page to mm/vmalloc Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19  3:36 ` [02/17] Vmalloc: add const Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19  3:36 ` [03/17] is_vmalloc_addr(): Check if an address is within the vmalloc boundaries Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19  6:32   ` David Rientjes
2007-09-19  7:24     ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-09-19  8:09       ` David Rientjes
2007-09-19  8:44         ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-09-19  9:19           ` David Rientjes
2007-09-19 13:23             ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-09-19 17:29           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 17:52             ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-09-19 17:29       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19 17:52         ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-09-19  3:36 ` [04/17] vmalloc: clean up page array indexing Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19  3:36 ` [05/17] vunmap: return page array Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19  8:05   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-19 22:15     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-20  0:47       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-09-19  3:36 ` [06/17] vmalloc_address(): Determine vmalloc address from page struct Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19  3:36 ` [07/17] GFP_VFALLBACK: Allow fallback of compound pages to virtual mappings Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19  3:36 ` [08/17] Pass vmalloc address in page->private Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19  3:36 ` [09/17] VFALLBACK: Debugging aid Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19  3:36 ` [10/17] Use GFP_VFALLBACK for sparsemem Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19  3:36 ` [11/17] GFP_VFALLBACK for zone wait table Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19  3:36 ` [12/17] Virtual Compound page allocation from interrupt context Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19  3:36 ` [13/17] Virtual compound page freeing in " Christoph Lameter
2007-09-18 20:36   ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-20 17:50     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19  3:36 ` [14/17] Allow bit_waitqueue to wait on a bit in a vmalloc area Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19  4:12   ` Gabriel C
2007-09-19 17:40     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19  3:36 ` [15/17] SLUB: Support virtual fallback via SLAB_VFALLBACK Christoph Lameter
2007-09-27 21:42   ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-28 17:33     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-28  5:14       ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-01 20:50         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-02  8:43           ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-04 16:16           ` SLUB performance regression vs SLAB Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-04 17:38             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-04 17:50               ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-04 17:58                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-04 18:26                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-04 20:48                 ` David Miller
2007-10-04 20:58                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-04 21:05                     ` David Miller
2007-10-04 21:11                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-04 18:32               ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-04 17:49                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-04 19:28                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-04 19:05                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-04 19:46                       ` Siddha, Suresh B
2007-10-04 20:55                     ` David Miller
2007-10-04 21:02                       ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-10-04 21:11                         ` David Miller
2007-10-04 21:47                           ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-10-04 22:07                             ` David Miller
2007-10-04 22:23                               ` David Chinner
2007-10-05  6:48                                 ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-05  9:19                                   ` Pekka Enberg
2007-10-05  9:28                                     ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-05 11:12                                       ` Andi Kleen
2007-10-05 12:39                                         ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-05 19:31                                           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-05 19:32                                             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-05 11:56                                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-05 12:37                                     ` Jens Axboe
2007-10-05 19:27                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-05 20:32                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-05 21:31                           ` David Miller
2007-10-04 21:05                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-05  2:43                         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-05  2:53                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-09-28 17:55       ` [15/17] SLUB: Support virtual fallback via SLAB_VFALLBACK Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-28 18:20         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-28 18:25           ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-28 18:41             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-28 20:22               ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-28 21:14               ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-28 20:59             ` Mel Gorman
2007-09-29  8:13             ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-29  8:47               ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-29  8:53                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-29  9:01                   ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-29  9:14                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-29  9:27                       ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-28 20:19                         ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-29 19:20                           ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-29 19:09                             ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-30 20:12                               ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-30  4:16                                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-29  9:00                 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-01 20:55                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-01 21:30                     ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-01 21:38                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-01 21:45                         ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-01 21:52                           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-02  9:19                       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2007-09-29  8:45           ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-01 21:01             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-10-02  8:37               ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-28 21:05       ` Mel Gorman
2007-10-01 21:10         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19  3:36 ` [16/17] Allow virtual fallback for buffer_heads Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19  3:36 ` [17/17] Allow virtual fallback for dentries Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19  7:34 ` [00/17] [RFC] Virtual Compound Page Support Anton Altaparmakov
2007-09-19  8:34   ` Eric Dumazet
2007-09-19 17:33     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-09-19  8:24 ` Andi Kleen
2007-09-19 17:36   ` Christoph Lameter
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-09-25 23:42 [00/17] Virtual Compound Page Support V1 Christoph Lameter
2007-09-25 23:42 ` [15/17] SLUB: Support virtual fallback via SLAB_VFALLBACK Christoph Lameter

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