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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Fengguang Wu <wfg@mail.ustc.edu.cn>,
	just.for.lkml@googlemail.com, maximlevitsky@gmail.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dgc@sgi.com,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: writeout stalls in current -git
Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 11:20:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1194344441.6289.8.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071105155749.73e0e38e.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 15:57 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:

> > > Subject: mm: speed up writeback ramp-up on clean systems
> > > 
> > > We allow violation of bdi limits if there is a lot of room on the
> > > system. Once we hit half the total limit we start enforcing bdi limits
> > > and bdi ramp-up should happen. Doing it this way avoids many small
> > > writeouts on an otherwise idle system and should also speed up the
> > > ramp-up.
> 
> Given the problems we're having in there I'm a bit reluctant to go tossing
> hastily put together and inadequately tested stuff onto the fire.  And
> that's what this patch looks like to me.

Not really hastily, I think it was written before the stuff hit
mainline. Inadequately tested, perhaps, its been in my and probably Wu's
kernels for a while. Granted that's not a lot of testing in the face of
those who have problems atm.

> Wanna convince me otherwise?

I'm perfectly happy with this patch earning its credits in -mm for a
while and maybe going in around -rc4 or something like that (hoping that
by then we've fixed these nagging issues).

Another patch I did come up with yesterday - not driven by any problems
in that area - could perhaps join this one on that path:

---
Subject: mm: bdi: tweak task dirty penalty

Penalizing heavy dirtiers with 1/8-th the total dirty limit might be rather
excessive on large memory machines. Use sqrt to scale it sub-linearly.

Update the comment while we're there.

Signed-off-by: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
---
 mm/page-writeback.c |   12 ++++++++----
 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)

Index: linux-2.6-2/mm/page-writeback.c
===================================================================
--- linux-2.6-2.orig/mm/page-writeback.c
+++ linux-2.6-2/mm/page-writeback.c
@@ -213,17 +213,21 @@ static inline void task_dirties_fraction
 }
 
 /*
- * scale the dirty limit
+ * Task specific dirty limit:
  *
- * task specific dirty limit:
+ *   dirty -= 8 * sqrt(dirty) * p_{t}
  *
- *   dirty -= (dirty/8) * p_{t}
+ * Penalize tasks that dirty a lot of pages by lowering their dirty limit. This
+ * avoids infrequent dirtiers from getting stuck in this other guys dirty
+ * pages.
+ *
+ * Use a sub-linear function to scale the penalty, we only need a little room.
  */
 void task_dirty_limit(struct task_struct *tsk, long *pdirty)
 {
 	long numerator, denominator;
 	long dirty = *pdirty;
-	u64 inv = dirty >> 3;
+	u64 inv = 8*int_sqrt(dirty);
 
 	task_dirties_fraction(tsk, &numerator, &denominator);
 	inv *= numerator;

  reply	other threads:[~2007-11-06 10:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200710220822.52370.maximlevitsky@gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <200710221258.11384.maximlevitsky@gmail.com>
     [not found]   ` <393051953.24752@ustc.edu.cn>
     [not found]     ` <200710221421.21439.maximlevitsky@gmail.com>
     [not found]       ` <393126119.26275@ustc.edu.cn>
     [not found]         ` <1193134027.7406.1.camel@twins>
     [not found]           ` <20071023115620.GA5678@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-10-23 11:56             ` [PATCH] reiserfs: don't drop PG_dirty when releasing sub-page-sized dirty file Fengguang Wu
2007-10-23 11:56             ` Fengguang Wu
2007-10-23 14:10               ` Chris Mason
     [not found]                 ` <20071023144014.GA6174@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-10-23 14:40                   ` Fengguang Wu
2007-10-23 14:40                   ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found]       ` <393056632.00561@ustc.edu.cn>
     [not found]         ` <200710221505.35397.maximlevitsky@gmail.com>
     [not found]           ` <20071022131045.GA5357@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
     [not found]             ` <393060478.03650@ustc.edu.cn>
     [not found]               ` <64bb37e0710310822r5ca6b793p8fd97db2f72a8655@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                 ` <393903856.06449@ustc.edu.cn>
     [not found]                   ` <64bb37e0711011120i63cdfe3ci18995d57b6649a8@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                     ` <E1Inljm-0002DW-CL@localhost>
2007-11-02  1:54                       ` writeout stalls in current -git Fengguang Wu
2007-11-02  7:42                         ` Torsten Kaiser
     [not found]                           ` <E1InrKN-0000MK-G5@localhost>
2007-11-02  7:52                             ` Fengguang Wu
2007-11-02  7:52                             ` Fengguang Wu
2007-11-02 17:47                               ` Torsten Kaiser
2007-11-02  1:54                       ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found]                     ` <64bb37e0711011200n228e708eg255640388f83da22@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                       ` <E1InmAI-0003ME-2i@localhost>
2007-11-02  2:21                         ` Fengguang Wu
2007-11-02  2:21                         ` Fengguang Wu
2007-11-02  7:50                           ` Torsten Kaiser
2007-11-02 10:15                         ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]                           ` <E1IntqD-0001dK-OE@localhost>
2007-11-02 10:33                             ` Fengguang Wu
2007-11-02 10:33                             ` Fengguang Wu
2007-11-05 23:57                               ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-06 10:20                                 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2007-11-02 19:22                           ` Torsten Kaiser
2007-11-02 20:43                             ` David Chinner
2007-11-02 21:02                               ` Torsten Kaiser
2007-11-04 11:19                               ` Torsten Kaiser
2007-11-05  1:45                                 ` David Chinner
2007-11-05  7:01                                   ` Torsten Kaiser
2007-11-05 18:27                                   ` Torsten Kaiser
2007-11-06  4:25                                     ` David Chinner
2007-11-06  7:10                                       ` Torsten Kaiser
2007-11-06 19:01                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-11-06 20:26                                         ` Torsten Kaiser
     [not found]                             ` <E1IpKZ4-0004je-Lb@localhost>
2007-11-06  9:17                               ` Fengguang Wu
2007-11-06 21:53                                 ` Torsten Kaiser
2007-11-06 23:31                                   ` David Chinner
2007-11-07  2:13                                     ` David Chinner
2007-11-07  7:15                                       ` Torsten Kaiser
2007-11-08  0:38                                         ` David Chinner
2007-11-20 13:16                                           ` Damien Wyart
2007-11-20 21:09                                             ` David Chinner
2007-11-06  9:17                               ` Fengguang Wu

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