From: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Mel Gorman <mel@skynet.ie>,
Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>,
"Zhang, Yanmin" <yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 21/21] slab defrag: Obsolete SLAB
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 16:54:55 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1210802095.4093.109.camel@calx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0805141405350.19073@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>
On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 14:26 -0700, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> > So far this is a bunch of hand-waving but I think this ends up
> basically
> > being an anti-magazine. A magazine puts a per-cpu queue on the alloc
> > side which costs on both the alloc and free side, regardless of whether
> > the workload demands it. This puts a per-cpu queue on the free side that
> > we can bypass in the cache-friendly case. I think that's a step in the
> > right direction.
>
> I think if you want queues for an SMP only system, do not care too much
> about memory use, dont do any frequent allocations on multicore systems
> and can tolerate the hiccups because your application does not care (most
> enterprise apps are constructed that way) or if you are running benchmarks
> that only access a limited dataset that fits into SLABs queues amd
> avoid touch the contenst of objects then the SLAB concept is the right way
> to go.
> If we would strip the NUMA stuff out and make it an SMP only allocator for
> enterprise apps then the code may become much smaller and simpler. I guess
> Arjan suggested something similar in the past. But that would result in
> SLAB no longer being a general allocator.
What does this have to do with anything? I'm not talking about going
back to SLAB. I'm talking about plugging the use cases where SLUB
currently loses to SLAB. That's what has to happen before SLAB can be
obsoleted.
I'll certainly grant you that queueing might not break even.
--
Mathematics is the supreme nostalgia of our time.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-05-14 21:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-05-10 3:08 [patch 00/21] Slab Fragmentation Reduction V12 Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10 3:08 ` [patch 01/21] slub: Add defrag_ratio field and sysfs support Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10 3:08 ` [patch 02/21] slub: Replace ctor field with ops field in /sys/slab/* Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10 3:08 ` [patch 03/21] slub: Add get() and kick() methods Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10 3:08 ` [patch 04/21] slub: Sort slab cache list and establish maximum objects for defrag slabs Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10 3:08 ` [patch 05/21] slub: Slab defrag core Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10 3:08 ` [patch 06/21] slub: Add KICKABLE to avoid repeated kick() attempts Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10 3:08 ` [patch 07/21] slub: Extend slabinfo to support -D and -F options Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10 3:08 ` [patch 08/21] slub: add defrag statistics Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10 3:08 ` [patch 09/21] slub: Trigger defragmentation from memory reclaim Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10 3:08 ` [patch 10/21] buffer heads: Support slab defrag Christoph Lameter
2008-05-12 0:24 ` David Chinner
2008-05-15 17:42 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-15 23:10 ` David Chinner
2008-05-16 17:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-19 5:45 ` David Chinner
2008-05-19 16:44 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-20 0:25 ` David Chinner
2008-05-20 6:56 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-05-20 21:46 ` David Chinner
2008-05-20 22:25 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-05-20 23:19 ` David Chinner
2008-05-20 23:28 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-21 6:15 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-05-21 6:24 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-21 17:52 ` iput() in reclaim context Hugh Dickins
2008-05-21 17:58 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-05-21 18:12 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-20 23:22 ` [patch 10/21] buffer heads: Support slab defrag Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-05-20 23:30 ` David Chinner
2008-05-21 6:20 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-05-21 1:56 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-20 22:53 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-10 3:08 ` [patch 11/21] inodes: Support generic defragmentation Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10 3:08 ` [patch 12/21] Filesystem: Ext2 filesystem defrag Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10 3:08 ` [patch 13/21] Filesystem: Ext3 " Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10 3:08 ` [patch 14/21] Filesystem: Ext4 " Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10 3:08 ` [patch 15/21] Filesystem: XFS slab defragmentation Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10 6:55 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-05-10 3:08 ` [patch 16/21] Filesystem: /proc filesystem support for slab defrag Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10 3:08 ` [patch 17/21] Filesystem: Slab defrag: Reiserfs support Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10 3:08 ` [patch 18/21] Filesystem: Socket inode defragmentation Christoph Lameter
2008-05-13 13:28 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-05-15 17:40 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-15 18:23 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-05-10 3:08 ` [patch 19/21] dentries: Add constructor Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10 3:08 ` [patch 20/21] dentries: dentry defragmentation Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10 3:08 ` [patch 21/21] slab defrag: Obsolete SLAB Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10 9:53 ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-11 2:15 ` Rik van Riel
2008-05-12 7:38 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-05-12 7:54 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-05-12 10:08 ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-12 10:23 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-05-14 17:30 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-14 17:29 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-14 17:49 ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-14 18:03 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-14 18:18 ` Matt Mackall
2008-05-14 19:21 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-14 19:49 ` Matt Mackall
2008-05-14 20:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-14 21:02 ` Matt Mackall
2008-05-14 21:26 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-14 21:54 ` Matt Mackall [this message]
2008-05-15 17:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-15 3:26 ` Zhang, Yanmin
2008-05-15 17:05 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-15 17:49 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-05-15 17:58 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-15 18:13 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-05-15 18:43 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-15 18:51 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-05-15 19:09 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-15 19:29 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-05-15 20:14 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-05-15 20:30 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-05-16 19:17 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-16 19:06 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-15 18:19 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-05-15 18:29 ` Vegard Nossum
2008-05-16 5:16 ` Zhang, Yanmin
2008-05-14 18:05 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-14 20:46 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-14 20:58 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-05-14 21:00 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-14 21:21 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-05-14 21:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-14 21:43 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-05-14 21:53 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-14 22:00 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-05-14 22:32 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-14 22:34 ` Christoph Lameter
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