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From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: chucklever@gmail.com
Cc: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Reinstate NFS exportability for JFFS2.
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 17:19:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1217607571.3454.417.camel@pmac.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <76bd70e30808010905j3010a6bfy534c068a662d348d@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 12:05 -0400, Chuck Lever wrote:
> Some NFSv3 clients don't support READDIRPLUS at all, while some can
> disable it (like Linux, Mac OS, and FreeBSD), and others use it only
> in certain cases (Linux).  I wouldn't describe any of these as saner
> or more commonly encountered than another.

Readdirplus is easy enough to fix with a lookup_fh() method and some way
to check if a given entry is a mountpoint. I'm not worried about that.

> > Or maybe we could just mask the offending attrs out of ->rd_bmval for
> > readdir calls, and say we don't support them? Would anyone scream if we
> > did that?
> 
> I'm not an NFSv4 expert (hence my initial incorrect assertion about
> NFSv4 not supporting readdirplus at all).  I defer to those who are
> actually working on the standard and Linux implementation (Bruce?)
> But typically masking out these features could potentially cause
> severe interoperability problems for certain client implementations.
> We can only know for sure after a lot of testing at multivendor events
> like Connectathon; it's not something I would disable cavalierly.

It's not readdirplus (FATTR4_WORD0_FILEHANDLE?) I was talking about
masking out -- as I said, we can cope with that. It's things that would
_really_ require the inode, like FATTR4_WORD0_ACL, FATTR4_WORD0_CHANGE,
etc.

But still, if masking them out would be a problem, we could use the
existing trick of doing readdir into a buffer and then going back and
doing the actual lookup later. But _only_ for that relatively rare case,
rather than for _all_ users of readdirplus, as we do at the moment.

> I rather prefer making NFSD do the right thing here -- it seems to
> localize and document the issue and provide a solution that all file
> systems can use with a minimum of real fuss.

Yes, that's definitely my preference too. What I've posted is a good
first step to that, and we can talk about improving it later.

-- 
David Woodhouse                            Open Source Technology Centre
David.Woodhouse@intel.com                              Intel Corporation




  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-01 16:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-01 19:42 [RFC] Reinstate NFS exportability for JFFS2 David Woodhouse
2008-05-01 20:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-05-01 22:44   ` David Woodhouse
2008-05-02  1:38     ` Neil Brown
2008-05-02 11:37       ` David Woodhouse
     [not found]         ` <1209728238.25560.686.camel-ZP4jZrcIevRpWr+L1FloEB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-02 14:08           ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-07-31 21:54       ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-01  0:16         ` Neil Brown
     [not found]           ` <18578.21997.529551.676627-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-01  0:40             ` David Woodhouse
     [not found]               ` <1217551230.3719.15.camel-Fexsq3y4057IgHVZqg5X0TlWvGAXklZc@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-01  0:52                 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-01  0:53               ` Chuck Lever
     [not found]                 ` <76bd70e30807311753m2785c6d3kd82edd1fe8b5f8b7-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-01  1:00                   ` David Woodhouse
     [not found]                     ` <1217552437.3719.30.camel-Fexsq3y4057IgHVZqg5X0TlWvGAXklZc@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-01  1:31                       ` Chuck Lever
2008-08-01  8:13                         ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-01 13:35                         ` David Woodhouse
     [not found]                           ` <1217597759.3454.356.camel-ZP4jZrcIevRpWr+L1FloEB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-01 13:56                             ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-01 16:05                               ` Chuck Lever
2008-08-01 16:19                                 ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2008-08-01 17:47                                   ` Chuck Lever
2008-08-02 18:26                                     ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                                       ` <20080802182644.GE30454-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-02 20:42                                         ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-02 21:33                                           ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                                             ` <20080802213337.GA2833-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-03  8:39                                               ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-03 11:56                                       ` Neil Brown
2008-08-03 17:15                                         ` Chuck Lever
2008-08-04  1:03                                           ` Neil Brown
     [not found]                                             ` <18582.21855.2092.903688-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-04  6:19                                               ` Chuck Lever
2008-08-05  8:51                                                 ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-05  8:59                                                   ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-05  9:47                                                     ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-05 23:06                                                   ` Neil Brown
2008-08-06  0:08                                                     ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-06 19:56                                                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-08-06 20:10                                                         ` David Woodhouse
     [not found]                                                           ` <1218053443.5111.148.camel-ZP4jZrcIevRpWr+L1FloEB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-09 16:47                                                             ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-09 19:55                                                               ` David Woodhouse
     [not found]                                                                 ` <1218311710.26926.125.camel-ZP4jZrcIevRpWr+L1FloEB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-09 20:01                                                                   ` [PATCH 1/4] Factor out nfsd_do_readdir() into its own function David Woodhouse
     [not found]                                                                     ` <1218312114.5063.5.camel-ZP4jZrcIevRpWr+L1FloEB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-09 20:07                                                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-09 20:02                                                                   ` [PATCH 2/4] Copy XFS readdir hack into nfsd code David Woodhouse
2008-08-09 20:08                                                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-09 20:03                                                                   ` [PATCH 3/4] Remove XFS buffered readdir hack David Woodhouse
     [not found]                                                                     ` <1218312191.5063.8.camel-ZP4jZrcIevRpWr+L1FloEB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-09 20:09                                                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-09 20:03                                                                   ` [PATCH 4/4] Reinstate NFS exportability David Woodhouse
     [not found]                                                                     ` <1218312213.5063.9.camel-ZP4jZrcIevRpWr+L1FloEB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-09 20:10                                                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-17 18:22                                               ` [RFC] Reinstate NFS exportability for JFFS2 Andreas Dilger
2008-08-04 18:41                                             ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-08-04 22:37                                               ` Neil Brown
2008-08-01  2:14               ` Neil Brown
     [not found]                 ` <18578.29049.38904.746701-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-01  8:50                   ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-01 10:03                   ` Al Viro
2008-08-01 23:11                     ` Neil Brown
2008-07-31 21:54       ` [PATCH 1/4] Factor out nfsd_do_readdir() into its own function David Woodhouse
2008-07-31 21:54       ` [PATCH 2/4] Copy XFS readdir hack into nfsd code, introduce FS_NO_LOOKUP_IN_READDIR flag David Woodhouse
2008-07-31 21:55       ` [PATCH 3/4] Switch XFS to using FS_NO_LOOKUP_IN_READDIR, remove local readdir hack David Woodhouse
     [not found]       ` <18458.28833.539314.455215-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-31 21:55         ` [PATCH 4/4] [JFFS2] Reinstate NFS exportability David Woodhouse

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