From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Ric Wheeler <ricwheeler@gmail.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, gilad@codefidence.com,
matthew@wil.cx
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] Discard requests, v2
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:00:05 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1218535205.2977.131.camel@pmac.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080812091446.GF20055@kernel.dk>
On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 11:14 +0200, Jens Axboe wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 09 2008, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > This time on top of the for-2.6.28 branch of
> > git://git.kernel.dk/linux-2.6-block.git
> >
> > I've made it cope with merging and sorting discard requests, still as a
> > separate patch at the end of the sequence. I don't think we have a
> > problem with discards passing writes in the queue, any more than we
> > _already_ had a problem with writes passing writes.
>
> But we don't already have this problem, that is the point. For page
> cache writes, the page cache nicely solves this issue for us - a write
> that comes in later gets to wait on the page lock before proceeding. So
> at least it's ordered. For O_DIRECT, the issuer is on his own.
>
> I think this is a serious problem and that we must ensure that an
> overlapping write doesn't pass a previously issued discard request. So
> in that sense, discards must be considered soft barriers.
OK, that makes sense. Enabling merges is now the last commit in
git.infradead.org/users/dwmw2/discard-2.6.git so we can easily drop it
for now. Now that I've updated the FAT code to merge discard requests
for contiguous chains, it's not a massive issue.
I'd still quite like to make it work though -- file systems that care
can always use explicit barriers to ensure that the DISCARD requests are
handled before any subsequent reallocation and write to the same
sectors.
If we want to allow that option for those who submit bios directly, is
it sufficient to set BIO_RW_SYNC to the flags in blkdev_issue_discard,
or do we really need REQ_SOFTBARRIER? There doesn't seem to be a way to
indicate that in ->bi_rw.
--
David Woodhouse Open Source Technology Centre
David.Woodhouse@intel.com Intel Corporation
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-08-12 10:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-08-09 16:26 [PATCH 0/7] Discard requests, v2 David Woodhouse
2008-08-09 16:29 ` [PATCH 1/7] [BLOCK] Fix typo causing compile error in blk_queue_bounce() David Woodhouse
2008-08-09 16:30 ` [PATCH 2/7] [BLOCK] Fix up comments about matching flags between bio and rq David Woodhouse
2008-08-09 16:30 ` [PATCH 3/7] [BLOCK] Add 'discard' request handling David Woodhouse
2008-08-09 20:39 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2008-08-09 21:37 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-10 6:32 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-09 16:31 ` [PATCH 4/7] [FAT] Let the block device know when sectors can be discarded David Woodhouse
2008-08-09 16:32 ` [PATCH 5/7] [MTD] Support 'discard sectors' operation in translation layer support core David Woodhouse
2008-08-09 16:33 ` [PATCH 6/7] [MTD] [FTL] Support 'discard sectors' operation David Woodhouse
2008-08-09 16:33 ` [PATCH 7/7] [BLOCK] Allow elevators to sort/merge discard requests David Woodhouse
2008-10-03 20:29 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-07 12:07 ` Jens Axboe
2008-08-09 22:48 ` [PATCH 0/7] Discard requests, v2 OGAWA Hirofumi
2008-08-10 10:25 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-10 16:37 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-10 17:55 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2008-08-10 20:07 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-10 21:40 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2008-08-11 9:40 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-11 10:25 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2008-08-11 13:17 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-11 14:21 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2008-08-10 10:29 ` [PATCH 8/7] blktrace: support discard requests David Woodhouse
2008-08-10 10:35 ` [USERSPACE PATCH] " David Woodhouse
2008-08-15 8:43 ` Jens Axboe
2008-08-15 9:01 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-15 9:08 ` Jens Axboe
2008-08-10 10:41 ` [PATCH 8/7] " David Woodhouse
2008-08-13 11:17 ` Jens Axboe
2008-08-10 11:48 ` [PATCH 9/7] blktrace: simplify flags handling in __blk_add_trace David Woodhouse
2008-08-10 11:50 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-11 15:11 ` [PATCH 10/7] [BLOCK] Add BLKDISCARD ioctl to allow userspace to discard sectors David Woodhouse
2008-08-11 18:27 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-08-11 20:52 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-12 9:14 ` [PATCH 0/7] Discard requests, v2 Jens Axboe
2008-08-12 10:00 ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2008-08-12 10:54 ` Jens Axboe
2008-08-12 11:16 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-12 12:19 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-12 12:53 ` Jens Axboe
2008-08-12 13:04 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-12 15:47 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-12 18:04 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-13 10:22 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-13 12:19 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-13 12:26 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-13 11:15 ` Jens Axboe
2008-08-13 11:23 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-13 11:32 ` Jens Axboe
2008-08-13 11:34 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-13 12:07 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-14 7:49 ` Jens Axboe
2008-08-14 7:52 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-14 7:25 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-14 7:33 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-08-14 7:37 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-14 7:42 ` Jens Axboe
2008-08-14 7:46 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-08-12 18:10 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-13 10:20 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-12 11:42 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-08-12 11:46 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-12 19:53 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2008-08-12 20:11 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2008-08-13 11:39 ` [PATCH 11/7] Kill REQ_TYPE_FLUSH David Woodhouse
2008-08-13 11:58 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-08-13 12:43 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-13 15:40 ` Jens Axboe
2008-08-13 15:46 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-16 17:08 ` [PATCH 0/2] MMC discard support (was [PATCH 0/7] Discard requests, v2) Pierre Ossman
2008-08-16 17:11 ` [PATCH 1/2] mmc_block: factor out the mmc request handling Pierre Ossman
2008-08-16 17:12 ` [PATCH 2/2] mmc_block: erase discarded blocks Pierre Ossman
2008-08-16 17:38 ` [PATCH 0/2] MMC discard support (was [PATCH 0/7] Discard requests, v2) David Woodhouse
2008-08-16 17:51 ` Pierre Ossman
2008-08-22 9:24 ` Jens Axboe
2008-08-22 9:45 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-22 10:50 ` Jens Axboe
2008-08-22 10:58 ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-22 11:11 ` Pierre Ossman
2008-08-22 11:19 ` Jens Axboe
2008-08-22 11:13 ` Pierre Ossman
2008-08-22 11:20 ` Jens Axboe
2008-08-22 14:49 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2008-08-22 23:02 ` Pierre Ossman
2008-08-22 23:59 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2008-08-24 11:23 ` Pierre Ossman
2008-08-24 13:39 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
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