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From: Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 5/8] mm: write_cache_pages integrity fix
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:35:58 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1223559358.14090.11.camel@think.oraclecorp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081009132711.GB9941@wotan.suse.de>

On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 15:27 +0200, Nick Piggin wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 08:52:45AM -0400, Chris Mason wrote:
> > On Fri, 2008-10-10 at 02:50 +1100, npiggin@suse.de wrote:
> > > plain text document attachment (mm-wcp-integrity-fix.patch)
> > > In write_cache_pages, nr_to_write is heeded even for data-integrity syncs, so
> > > the function will return success after writing out nr_to_write pages, even if
> > > that was not sufficient to guarantee data integrity.
> > > 
> > > The callers tend to set it to values that could break data interity semantics
> > > easily in practice. For example, nr_to_write can be set to mapping->nr_pages *
> > > 2, however if a file has a single, dirty page, then fsync is called, subsequent
> > > pages might be concurrently added and dirtied, then write_cache_pages might
> > > writeout two of these newly dirty pages, while not writing out the old page
> > > that should have been written out.
> > > 
> > > Fix this by ignoring nr_to_write if it is a data integrity sync.
> > > 
> > 
> > Thanks for working on these.
> 
> No problem. Actually I feel I would be negligent for knowingly shipping
> a kernel with these bugs :( So I don't have much choice...
> 
> 
> > We should have a wbc->integrity flag because WB_SYNC_NONE is somewhat
> > over used, and it is often used in data integrity syncs.
> > 
> > See fs/sync.c:do_sync_mapping_range()
> 
> Oh great, more data integrity bugs.
> 
> I've always disliked the sync_file_range API ;) it seems over complex and
> introduces the concept of writeout to userspace that seems questionable to
> me. I should add SYNC_FILE_RANGE_ASYNC and SYNC_FILE_RANGE_SYNC for people
> who already know POSIX and just want to convert existing fsync or msync to
> a file and range based API, and also get a proper async operation that
> isn't bound to kick off writeback for every page but could hand off page
> cleaning to another thread...
> 
> Anyway, quick fix says we have to change that WB_SYNC_NONE into WB_SYNC_ALL.
> WB_SYNC_NONE is all over the kernel. So do_sync_mapping_range is
> broken as-is. 
> 

I don't think do_sync_mapping_range is broken as is.  It simply splits
the operations into different parts.  The caller can request that we
wait for pending IO first.

WB_SYNC_NONE none just means don't wait for IO in flight, and there are
valid uses for it that will slow down if you switch them all to
WB_SYNC_ALL.

The problem is that we have a few flags and callers that mean almost but
not quite the same thing.  Some people confuse WB_SYNC_NONE with
wbc->nonblocking.

I'd leave WB_SYNC_NONE alone and set wbc->nr_to_write to the max int, or
just make a new flag that says write every dirty page in this range.

-chris


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  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-09 13:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-09 15:50 [patch 0/8] write_cache_pages fixes npiggin
2008-10-09 15:50 ` [patch 1/8] mm: write_cache_pages cyclic fix npiggin
2008-10-09 15:50 ` [patch 2/8] mm: write_cache_pages AOP_WRITEPAGE_ACTIVATE fix npiggin
2008-10-10 16:00   ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-10 18:29     ` Hugh Dickins
2008-10-11  4:05       ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-09 15:50 ` [patch 3/8] mm: write_cache_pages writepage error fix npiggin
2008-10-09 15:50 ` [patch 4/8] mm: write_cache_pages type overflow fix npiggin
2008-10-09  8:23   ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-09  8:33     ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-10 13:10     ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-10 13:13       ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-10 13:37         ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-10 13:48           ` Steven Whitehouse
2008-10-10 14:05             ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-10 14:08               ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-10 15:54                 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2008-10-10 15:59                   ` Chris Mason
2008-10-10 16:10                   ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-10 16:34                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-10 13:56           ` Chris Mason
2008-10-09 15:50 ` [patch 5/8] mm: write_cache_pages integrity fix npiggin
2008-10-09 12:52   ` Chris Mason
2008-10-09 13:27     ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-09 13:35       ` Chris Mason [this message]
2008-10-09 13:55         ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-09 14:12           ` Chris Mason
2008-10-09 14:21             ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-09 14:39               ` Chris Mason
2008-10-09 14:50                 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-09 15:16                   ` Chris Mason
2008-10-10  2:40                     ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-09 15:50 ` [patch 6/8] mm: write_cache_pages cleanups npiggin
2008-10-09 14:37   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-10-09 15:50 ` [patch 7/8] mm: write_cache_pages optimise page cleaning npiggin
2008-10-09 15:50 ` [patch 8/8] mm: write_cache_pages terminate quickly npiggin

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