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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-btrfs <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	Peter Morreale <pmorreale@novell.com>,
	Sven Dietrich <SDietrich@novell.com>,
	Dmitry Adamushko <dmitry.adamushko@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -v8][RFC] mutex: implement adaptive spinning
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 18:13:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1231780388.4371.185.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <496B6C23.8000808@redhat.com>

On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 18:13 +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:

> One thing that worries me here is that the spinners will spin on a 
> memory location in struct mutex, which means that the cacheline holding 
> the mutex (which is likely to be under write activity from the owner) 
> will be continuously shared by the spinners, slowing the owner down when 
> it needs to unshare it.  One way out of this is to spin on a location in 
> struct mutex_waiter, and have the mutex owner touch it when it schedules 
> out.

Yeah, that is what pure MCS locks do -- however I don't think its a
feasible strategy for this spin/sleep hybrid.

> So:
> - each task_struct has an array of currently owned mutexes, appended to 
> by mutex_lock()

That's not going to fly I think. Lockdep does this but its very
expensive and has some issues. We're currently at 48 max owners, and
still some code paths manage to exceed that.

> - mutex waiters spin on mutex_waiter.wait, which they initialize to zero
> - when switching out of a task, walk the mutex list, and for each mutex, 
> bump each waiter's wait variable, and clear the owner array

Which is O(n).

> - when unlocking a mutex, bump the nearest waiter's wait variable, and 
> remove from the owner array
> 
> Something similar might be done to spinlocks to reduce cacheline 
> contention from spinners and the owner.

Spinlocks can use 'pure' MCS locks.


  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-12 17:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-12 15:37 [PATCH -v8][RFC] mutex: implement adaptive spinning Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-12 16:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-12 16:20   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-12 16:45     ` Chris Mason
2009-01-12 16:50       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-12 17:14         ` Chris Mason
2009-01-12 17:24           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-12 17:30             ` Chris Mason
2009-01-12 17:16     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-12 17:33       ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-01-12 18:07         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-12 16:13 ` Avi Kivity
2009-01-12 17:13   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2009-01-12 17:23     ` Avi Kivity
2009-01-12 17:32     ` Avi Kivity
2009-01-14 16:46       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-14 17:04         ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-14 17:23           ` Avi Kivity
2009-01-15  0:50             ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-13 15:15 ` [PATCH -v9][RFC] " Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-13 16:16   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-13 16:21     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-13 16:39       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-13 16:40       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-13 16:49         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-13 17:21           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-13 18:33             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-13 18:40               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-13 19:01                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-14  2:58             ` Chris Mason
2009-01-14 11:18               ` Dmitry Adamushko
2009-01-14 16:47                 ` Chris Mason
2009-01-14 17:32                   ` Dmitry Adamushko
2009-01-14 11:21               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-14 15:43                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-14 16:23                   ` Chris Mason
2009-01-14 17:06                   ` [PATCH -v11 delta] " Ingo Molnar
2009-01-14 17:00             ` [PATCH -v11][RFC] " Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-14 17:18               ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-14 17:22                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-15  0:46                   ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-15  7:44                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-15  7:52                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-14 18:33               ` [GIT PULL] adaptive spinning mutexes Ingo Molnar
2009-01-14 18:40                 ` Chris Mason
2009-01-15  9:53                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-14 18:47                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-14 19:28                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-15 17:44                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-01-15 18:05                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-15 18:08                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-15 18:16                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-15 19:26                             ` Chris Mason
2009-01-15 20:13                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-15 21:04                                 ` Chris Mason
2009-01-15 22:03                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-16 13:32                               ` Folkert van Heusden
2009-01-16 13:57                                 ` Folkert van Heusden
2009-01-16 18:37                               ` Bill Davidsen
2009-01-16  0:53                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-01-16  1:01                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-16  1:34                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-01-16 14:07                                 ` Folkert van Heusden
2009-01-16  3:03                             ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-15 18:06                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-14 18:53                 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-14 19:00                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-14 19:36                     ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-14 19:50                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-14 20:21                         ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-14 20:27                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-14 20:44                           ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-14 20:14                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-14 20:30                         ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-14 20:51                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-14 21:06                             ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-14 21:14                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-14 21:35                                 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-14 23:23                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-15  0:55                                   ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-14 21:41                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-14 21:50                                   ` Kay Sievers
2009-01-14 22:34                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-15 11:45                                       ` Folkert van Heusden
2009-01-15 12:53                                       ` Chris Samuel
2009-01-14 19:23                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-14 19:33                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-15  8:41             ` [PATCH] mutex: set owner only once on acquisition Johannes Weiner
2009-01-15  8:56               ` Johannes Weiner
2009-01-13 18:12           ` [PATCH -v9][RFC] mutex: implement adaptive spinning Ingo Molnar
2009-01-13 18:21             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-13 18:24               ` Ingo Molnar

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