From: Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 1/2] fs: mnt_want_write speedup
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:13:43 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1237403623.8286.196.camel@nimitz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090312041334.GB1893@wotan.suse.de>
On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 05:13 +0100, Nick Piggin wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 03:11:17PM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> > I'm feeling a bit better about these, although I am still honestly quite
> > afraid of the barriers. I also didn't like all the #ifdefs much, but
> > here's some help on that.
>
> FWIW, we have this in suse kernels because page fault performance was
> so bad compared with SLES10. mnt_want_write & co was I think the 2nd
> biggest offender for file backed mappings (after pvops). I think we're
> around parity again even with pvops.
Page faults themselves? Which path was that from?
> Basically I think we have to improve this one way or another in mainline
> too. Is there any way to make you feel better about the barriers? More
> comments?
>
> mnt_make_readonly() mnt_want_write()
> 1. mnt_flags |= MNT_WRITE_HOLD A. mnt_writers[x]++
> 2. smp_mb() B. smp_mb()
> 3. count += mnt_writers[0] C. while (mnt_flags & MNT_WRITE_HOLD) ;
> ... D. smp_rmb()
> count += mnt_writers[N] E. if (mnt_flags & MNT_READONLY)
> 4. if (count == 0) F. mnt_writers[x]-- /* fail */
> 5. mnt_flags |= MNT_READONLY G. else /* success */
> 6. else /* fail */
> 7. smp_wmb()
> 8. mnt_flags &= ~MNT_WRITE_HOLD
>
> * 2 ensures that 1 is visible before 3 is loaded
> * B ensures that A is visible before C is loaded
> * Therefore, either count != 0 at 4, or C will loop (or both)
> * If count == 0
> * (make_readonly success)
> * C will loop until 8
> * D ensures E is not loaded until loop ends
> * 7 ensures 5 is visible before 8 is
> * Therefore E will find MNT_READONLY (want_write fail)
> * If C does not loop
> * 4 will find count != 0 (make_readonly fail)
> * Therefore 5 is not executed.
> * Therefore E will not find MNT_READONLY (want_write success)
> * If count != 0 and C loops
> * (make_readonly fail)
> * 5 will not be executed
> * Therefore E will not find MNT_READONLY (want_write success)
It is great to spell it out like that. But, honestly, I think the code
and comments that are there are probably better than looking at an out
of line description like that.
> I don't know if that helps (I should reference which statements rely
> on which). I think it shows that either one or the other only must
> succeed.
>
> It does not illustrate how the loop in the want_write side prevents
> the sumation from getting confused by decrementing count on a different
> CPU than it was incremented, but I've commented that case in the code
> fairly well I think.
I think you mentioned a seqlock being a possibility here. That would
slot in as a replacement for MNT_WRITE_HOLD, right? mnt_make_readonly()
takes a seq_write, mnt_want_write() takes a seq_read and doesn't
consider MNT_READONLY valid until it gets a clear read of it. It would
internalize all the barriers into the seqlock implementation except for
the mnt_writers[]-related ones.
As for mnt_writers, you'd need an smp_rmb() in mnt_make_readonly()
before reading the counters and an smp_wmb() after writing the counter
in mnt_want_write().
Is see that those are effectively consolidated down in your version into
a single smp_mb() at both call sites when combined with the
MNT_WRITE_HOLD barriers.
If we can get this down to two explicit calls to the barrier functions
that paired and very clear, I think I'd be much more OK with it.
> > How about this on top of what you have as a bit of a cleanup? It gets
> > rid of all the new #ifdefs in .c files?
> >
> > Did I miss the use of get_mnt_writers_ptr()? I don't think I actually
> > saw it used anywhere in this pair of patches, so I've stolen it. I
> > think gcc should compile all this new stuff down to be basically the
> > same as you had before. The one thing I'm not horribly sure of is the
> > "out_free_devname:" label. It shouldn't be reachable in the !SMP case.
> >
> > I could also consolidate the header #ifdefs into a single one if you
> > think that looks better.
>
> I don't like the get_mnt_writers_ptr terribly. The *_mnt_writers functions
> are quite primitive and just happen to be in the .c file because they're
> private to it. The alloc/free_mnt_writers is good (they could be
> in the .c file too?).
Yeah, it could all move to the .c file.
> Another thing I should probably do is slash away most of the crap from
> mnt_want_write in the UP case. It only needs to do a preempt_disable,
> test MNT_READONLY, increment mnt_writers (and similarly for mnt_make_readonly)
Yeah, that's true. I probably tried to prematurely optimize it.
-- Dave
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-03-18 19:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-03-10 14:37 [patch 1/2] fs: mnt_want_write speedup Nick Piggin
2009-03-10 14:38 ` [patch 2/2] fs: introduce mnt_clone_write Nick Piggin
2009-03-10 14:55 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-03-10 15:08 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-10 14:48 ` [patch 1/2] fs: mnt_want_write speedup Matthew Wilcox
2009-03-10 15:03 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-10 15:31 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-11 22:11 ` Dave Hansen
2009-03-12 4:13 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-18 19:13 ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2009-04-02 18:22 ` Nick Piggin
2009-04-02 18:37 ` Dave Hansen
2009-04-02 20:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-04-03 1:29 ` Nick Piggin
2009-04-02 18:43 ` Al Viro
2009-04-02 18:48 ` Al Viro
2009-04-02 19:08 ` Dave Hansen
2009-04-03 10:31 ` Al Viro
2009-04-03 1:31 ` Nick Piggin
2009-04-02 18:08 ` Andrew Morton
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