From: Jon Masters <jonathan@jonmasters.org>
To: Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
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pavel@suse.cz
Subject: Re: fanotify - overall design before I start sending patches
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 07:48:28 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1248781708.14145.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1248466429.3567.82.camel@localhost>
On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 16:13 -0400, Eric Paris wrote:
> I plan to start sending patches for fanotify in the next week or two.
Generally, I appreciate your effort (as I'm sure does everyone else).
I agree with Jamie that it's good to consider extending inotify and also
that the special socket idea probably won't work for mainline. Also:
1). Ability to watch only certain mount-points, not just directories. Or
directories and block on mount operations as Jamie suggested. Or both :)
2). Add event on mmap perhaps. Future theoretical cloud cuckoo land
ideas include forcing all mmap operations to be read-only and then
having the page fault handler fire an event for every write so that the
anti-malware thing can monitor every single touched page...joke.
3). Sounds a lot like netlink could be close enough. Kay and others have
been playing with in-kernel multiplexing and re-broadcasting of netlink
events, and I'm pretty sure most of the rest is doable.
I'm looking forward to updatedb using this. Let's try up-playing the use
cases outside malware for this stuff. I think the average person is
going to get more excited to see "Beagle done right" or "something like
Microsoft indexer service"[0] than 1970s updatedb. It's certainly a nice
and compelling reason to get this into mainline IMO.
Jon.
[0] Except anything but as crap as their version. Seriously, the last
time I used a Windows system and looked at it, the indexer was consuming
more CPU than Beagle ever did. And I liked the Beagle concept.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-07-28 11:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-07-24 20:13 fanotify - overall design before I start sending patches Eric Paris
2009-07-24 20:48 ` david-gFPdbfVZQbY
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.1.10.0907241340580.28013-Z4YwzcCRHZnr5h6Zg1Auow@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-24 21:01 ` Eric Paris
2009-07-24 21:44 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-27 17:52 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-07-29 20:11 ` Eric Paris
2009-07-24 21:00 ` Andreas Dilger
2009-07-24 21:21 ` Eric Paris
2009-07-24 22:42 ` Andreas Dilger
2009-07-24 23:01 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-24 22:48 ` Jamie Lokier
[not found] ` <20090724224813.GK27755-yetKDKU6eevNLxjTenLetw@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-24 23:25 ` Eric Paris
2009-07-24 23:46 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-24 23:49 ` Eric Paris
2009-07-25 0:29 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-27 18:33 ` Andreas Dilger
2009-07-27 19:23 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-28 17:59 ` Andreas Dilger
[not found] ` <20090727192342.GA27895-yetKDKU6eevNLxjTenLetw@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-29 20:14 ` Eric Paris
[not found] ` <20090727183354.GM4231-RIaA196FMs1uuQVovAj/GogTZbYi8/ss@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-29 20:12 ` Eric Paris
2009-07-29 20:07 ` Eric Paris
2009-07-27 16:54 ` Jan Kara
2009-07-25 14:22 ` Niraj kumar
2009-07-29 20:08 ` Eric Paris
2009-07-28 11:48 ` Jon Masters [this message]
[not found] ` <1248781708.14145.21.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-29 20:20 ` Eric Paris
2009-08-03 16:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20090803162303.GA31058-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-03 16:55 ` Eric Paris
2009-08-03 18:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20090803180437.GA9798-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-03 18:13 ` Eric Paris
2009-08-04 16:09 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
[not found] ` <200908041709.51659.tvrtko.ursulin-j34lQMj1tz/QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-04 16:27 ` Eric Paris
2009-08-04 16:39 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
[not found] ` <1249403268.2361.21.camel-8EcGF3LoIElviLIMxPk1+R/sF2h8X+2i0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-04 17:22 ` Valdis.Kletnieks-PjAqaU27lzQ
[not found] ` <19585.1249406551-+bZmOdGhbsPr6rcHtW+onFJE71vCis6O@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-04 18:20 ` John Stoffel
[not found] ` <19064.31705.491774.122207-HgN6juyGXH5AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-04 18:50 ` Eric Paris
2009-08-05 9:32 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2009-08-04 16:34 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
[not found] ` <200908041734.05762.tvrtko.ursulin-j34lQMj1tz/QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-05 10:12 ` Douglas Leeder
2009-08-05 10:35 ` Douglas Leeder
2009-08-05 2:05 ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-05 16:46 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
[not found] ` <200908051746.17903.tvrtko.ursulin-j34lQMj1tz/QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-06 10:10 ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-06 10:20 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2009-08-06 10:24 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20090806101059.GD31370-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-06 10:20 ` Douglas Leeder
2009-08-06 10:22 ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-07 8:59 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-06 10:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-06 10:59 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2009-08-06 11:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-06 12:48 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
[not found] ` <200908061348.43625.tvrtko.ursulin-j34lQMj1tz/QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-06 12:58 ` Alan Cox
[not found] ` <20090806135800.7ccb7787-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-06 18:18 ` Eric Paris
2009-08-06 13:50 ` Kernel Event Notification Subsystem (was: fanotify - overall design before I start sending patches) Al Boldi
2009-08-06 13:50 ` Al Boldi
2009-08-06 18:18 ` fanotify - overall design before I start sending patches Eric Paris
2009-08-07 16:36 ` Miklos Szeredi
[not found] ` <E1MZSQZ-0002as-FA-8f8m9JG5TPIdUIPVzhDTVZP2KDSNp7ea@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-07 17:43 ` Eric Paris
2009-08-08 10:36 ` Pavel Machek
2009-08-10 10:03 ` Miklos Szeredi
[not found] ` <1249582695.20644.35.camel-8EcGF3LoIElviLIMxPk1+R/sF2h8X+2i0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-08 10:34 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <200908061159.45550.tvrtko.ursulin-j34lQMj1tz/QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-06 11:24 ` Pavel Machek
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