From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>
Cc: Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>,
Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
david@fromorbit.com, hch@infradead.org,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, jack@suse.cz,
Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 8/8] vm: Add an tuning knob for vm.max_writeback_mb
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 20:28:30 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1252434510.7035.4.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090908175756.GG2975@think>
On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 13:57 -0400, Chris Mason wrote:
> Going back to the streaming writer case, pretend the FS just created a
> nice fat 256MB extent out of dealloc pages, but after we wrote the first
> 4k, we dropped below the dirty threshold and IO is no longer "required".
>
> It would be silly to just write 4k. We know we have a contiguous
> area 256MB long on disk and 256MB of dirty pages. In this case, pdflush
> (or Jens' bdi threads) want to write some large portion of that 256MB.
>
> You might argue a balance_dirty_pages callers wants to return quickly,
> but even then we'd want to write at least 128k.
Sure and that's no problem at all,.. I'm thinking something like a
fraction of the dirty limit, maybe something like
(dirty_ratio-background_ratio) / 4 as chunk size. That gives a sizable
amount and scales with the writeback cache stuff.
Esp if we move all write activity into the bdi threads and have the
application tasks wait. In that case we can release the app tasks to
generate more dirty pages while still writing out data in a linear
fashion.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-09-08 18:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-09-08 9:23 [PATCH 0/8] Per-bdi writeback flusher threads v19 Jens Axboe
2009-09-08 9:23 ` [PATCH 1/8] writeback: get rid of generic_sync_sb_inodes() export Jens Axboe
2009-09-08 10:27 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-09-08 10:41 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-08 10:52 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-09-08 10:57 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-08 11:01 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-09-08 11:05 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-08 11:31 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-09-08 9:23 ` [PATCH 2/8] writeback: move dirty inodes from super_block to backing_dev_info Jens Axboe
2009-09-08 9:23 ` [PATCH 3/8] writeback: switch to per-bdi threads for flushing data Jens Axboe
2009-09-08 13:46 ` Daniel Walker
2009-09-08 14:21 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-08 9:23 ` [PATCH 4/8] writeback: get rid of pdflush completely Jens Axboe
2009-09-08 9:23 ` [PATCH 5/8] writeback: add some debug inode list counters to bdi stats Jens Axboe
2009-09-08 9:23 ` [PATCH 6/8] writeback: add name to backing_dev_info Jens Axboe
2009-09-08 9:23 ` [PATCH 7/8] writeback: check for registered bdi in flusher add and inode dirty Jens Axboe
2009-09-08 9:23 ` [PATCH 8/8] vm: Add an tuning knob for vm.max_writeback_mb Jens Axboe
2009-09-08 10:37 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-09-08 16:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-08 16:29 ` Chris Mason
2009-09-08 16:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-08 17:28 ` Chris Mason
2009-09-08 17:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-08 17:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-08 18:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-09 14:23 ` Jan Kara
2009-09-09 14:37 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-10 15:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-14 11:17 ` Jan Kara
2009-09-24 8:33 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-24 15:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-25 1:33 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-29 17:35 ` Jan Kara
2009-09-30 1:24 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-30 11:55 ` Jan Kara
2009-09-30 12:10 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-01 15:17 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-10-01 13:36 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-10-01 14:22 ` Jan Kara
2009-10-01 14:54 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-10-01 21:35 ` Jan Kara
2009-10-02 2:25 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-10-02 9:54 ` Jan Kara
2009-10-02 10:34 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-08 18:35 ` Chris Mason
2009-09-08 17:57 ` Chris Mason
2009-09-08 18:28 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2009-09-09 1:53 ` Dave Chinner
2009-09-09 3:52 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-08 18:06 ` Theodore Tso
[not found] ` <20090908181937.GA11545@infradead.org>
2009-09-08 19:34 ` Theodore Tso
2009-09-09 9:29 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-09 12:28 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-09 12:32 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-09 12:36 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-09-09 12:37 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-09 12:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-09 12:44 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-09 12:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-09 12:57 ` Wu Fengguang
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-09-04 7:46 [PATCH 0/8] Per-bdi writeback flusher threads v18 Jens Axboe
2009-09-04 7:46 ` [PATCH 8/8] vm: Add an tuning knob for vm.max_writeback_mb Jens Axboe
2009-09-04 15:28 ` Richard Kennedy
2009-09-05 13:26 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-05 16:18 ` Richard Kennedy
2009-09-05 16:46 ` Theodore Tso
2009-09-07 19:09 ` Jan Kara
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