From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>,
Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
david@fromorbit.com, hch@infradead.org,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 8/8] vm: Add an tuning knob for vm.max_writeback_mb
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:49:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1252597750.7205.82.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090909142315.GA7949@duck.suse.cz>
On Wed, 2009-09-09 at 16:23 +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> Well, what I imagined we could do is:
> Have a per-bdi variable 'pages_written' - that would reflect the amount of
> pages written to the bdi since boot (OK, we'd have to handle overflows but
> that's doable).
>
> There will be a per-bdi variable 'pages_waited'. When a thread should sleep
> in balance_dirty_pages() because we are over limits, it kicks writeback thread
> and does:
> to_wait = max(pages_waited, pages_written) + sync_dirty_pages() (or
> whatever number we decide)
> pages_waited = to_wait
> sleep until pages_written reaches to_wait or we drop below dirty limits.
>
> That will make sure each thread will sleep until writeback threads have done
> their duty for the writing thread.
>
> If we make sure sleeping threads are properly ordered on the wait queue,
> we could always wakeup just the first one and thus avoid the herding
> effect. When we drop below dirty limits, we would just wakeup the whole
> waitqueue.
>
> Does this sound reasonable?
That seems to go wrong when there's multiple tasks waiting on the same
bdi, you'd count each page for 1/n its weight.
Suppose pages_written = 1024, and 4 tasks block and compute their to
wait as pages_written + 256 = 1280, then we'd release all 4 of them
after 256 pages are written, instead of 4*256, which would be
pages_written = 2048.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-09-10 15:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-09-08 9:23 [PATCH 0/8] Per-bdi writeback flusher threads v19 Jens Axboe
2009-09-08 9:23 ` [PATCH 1/8] writeback: get rid of generic_sync_sb_inodes() export Jens Axboe
2009-09-08 10:27 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-09-08 10:41 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-08 10:52 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-09-08 10:57 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-08 11:01 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-09-08 11:05 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-08 11:31 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-09-08 9:23 ` [PATCH 2/8] writeback: move dirty inodes from super_block to backing_dev_info Jens Axboe
2009-09-08 9:23 ` [PATCH 3/8] writeback: switch to per-bdi threads for flushing data Jens Axboe
2009-09-08 13:46 ` Daniel Walker
2009-09-08 14:21 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-08 9:23 ` [PATCH 4/8] writeback: get rid of pdflush completely Jens Axboe
2009-09-08 9:23 ` [PATCH 5/8] writeback: add some debug inode list counters to bdi stats Jens Axboe
2009-09-08 9:23 ` [PATCH 6/8] writeback: add name to backing_dev_info Jens Axboe
2009-09-08 9:23 ` [PATCH 7/8] writeback: check for registered bdi in flusher add and inode dirty Jens Axboe
2009-09-08 9:23 ` [PATCH 8/8] vm: Add an tuning knob for vm.max_writeback_mb Jens Axboe
2009-09-08 10:37 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-09-08 16:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-08 16:29 ` Chris Mason
2009-09-08 16:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-08 17:28 ` Chris Mason
2009-09-08 17:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-08 17:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-08 18:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-09 14:23 ` Jan Kara
2009-09-09 14:37 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-10 15:49 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2009-09-14 11:17 ` Jan Kara
2009-09-24 8:33 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-24 15:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-25 1:33 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-29 17:35 ` Jan Kara
2009-09-30 1:24 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-30 11:55 ` Jan Kara
2009-09-30 12:10 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-01 15:17 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-10-01 13:36 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-10-01 14:22 ` Jan Kara
2009-10-01 14:54 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-10-01 21:35 ` Jan Kara
2009-10-02 2:25 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-10-02 9:54 ` Jan Kara
2009-10-02 10:34 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-08 18:35 ` Chris Mason
2009-09-08 17:57 ` Chris Mason
2009-09-08 18:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-09 1:53 ` Dave Chinner
2009-09-09 3:52 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-08 18:06 ` Theodore Tso
[not found] ` <20090908181937.GA11545@infradead.org>
2009-09-08 19:34 ` Theodore Tso
2009-09-09 9:29 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-09 12:28 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-09 12:32 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-09-09 12:36 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-09-09 12:37 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-09 12:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-09 12:44 ` Jens Axboe
2009-09-09 12:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-09 12:57 ` Wu Fengguang
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-09-04 7:46 [PATCH 0/8] Per-bdi writeback flusher threads v18 Jens Axboe
2009-09-04 7:46 ` [PATCH 8/8] vm: Add an tuning knob for vm.max_writeback_mb Jens Axboe
2009-09-04 15:28 ` Richard Kennedy
2009-09-05 13:26 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-05 16:18 ` Richard Kennedy
2009-09-05 16:46 ` Theodore Tso
2009-09-07 19:09 ` Jan Kara
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