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From: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
To: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
Cc: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>,
	Brad Boyer <flar@allandria.com>, James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6][v4][RFC] NFSv3: implement extended attribute protocol (XATTR)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:49:07 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1268696947.3155.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B9EC2B9.3030800@schaufler-ca.com>

On Mon, 2010-03-15 at 16:28 -0700, Casey Schaufler wrote:

> You're missing something. Privilege semantics are different. The
> behavior of unlinked files is different. Locking is different. You
> are correct that in most cases it does not matter. We're not talking
> about the common case, we're talking about using xattrs to store
> information that is used to make security decisions. It is quite
> difficult to make security claims when an object can be accessed
> under two different sets of semantics.

I'm sorry. Exactly _how_ are you going to prevent files from being
accessed under more than one set of semantics under NFS? You have _no_
idea what kind of security mechanisms are implemented on the client.

All you can do is export a given set of security labels and hope...

Trond

  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-15 23:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <alpine.LRH.2.00.1002261457420.25193@tundra.namei.org>
2010-03-08 10:42 ` [PATCH 0/6][v4][RFC] NFSv3: implement extended attribute protocol (XATTR) James Morris
2010-03-08 10:43   ` [PATCH 1/6] NFSv3: convert client to generic xattr API James Morris
2010-03-08 10:44   ` [PATCH 3/6] NFSv3: add client implementation of XATTR protocol James Morris
2010-03-08 10:45   ` [PATCH 4/6] NFSv3: add server " James Morris
2010-03-08 10:46   ` [PATCH 5/6] xattr: add new top level nfsd namespace and implement ext3 support James Morris
     [not found]   ` <alpine.LRH.2.00.1003082122340.6314-CK9fWmtY32x9JUWOpEiw7w@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-08 10:43     ` [PATCH 2/6] NFSv3: add xattr API config option for client James Morris
2010-03-08 10:47     ` [PATCH 6/6] NFSv3: Add server namespace support for XATTR protocol implementation James Morris
2010-03-09  3:59   ` [PATCH 0/6][v4][RFC] NFSv3: implement extended attribute protocol (XATTR) Brad Boyer
2010-03-09  5:49     ` Casey Schaufler
     [not found]       ` <4B95E167.40306-iSGtlc1asvQWG2LlvL+J4A@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-09  7:04         ` Brad Boyer
2010-03-09 19:35           ` Jamie Lokier
     [not found]             ` <20100309193545.GE11042-yetKDKU6eevNLxjTenLetw@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-10  3:46               ` Casey Schaufler
2010-03-15  3:19                 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-15  4:42                   ` Casey Schaufler
     [not found]                     ` <4B9DBAB0.5060500-iSGtlc1asvQWG2LlvL+J4A@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-15 14:28                       ` Jamie Lokier
     [not found]                         ` <20100315142803.GC15133-yetKDKU6eevNLxjTenLetw@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-15 23:28                           ` Casey Schaufler
2010-03-15 23:49                             ` Trond Myklebust [this message]
2010-03-16  2:31                               ` Casey Schaufler
2010-03-17 20:13         ` Eric Paris
2010-03-17 21:23           ` Casey Schaufler
2010-03-09  8:13     ` James Morris
2010-03-13  7:28       ` Brad Boyer

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