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From: Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] Per superblock shrinkers V2
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 10:42:06 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1275032526.15516.83.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100527133223.efa4740a.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 13:32 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Tue, 25 May 2010 18:53:03 +1000
> Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> wrote:
> 
> > This series reworks the filesystem shrinkers. We currently have a
> > set of issues with the current filesystem shrinkers:
> > 
> >         1. There is an dependency between dentry and inode cache
> >            shrinking that is only implicitly defined by the order of
> >            shrinker registration.
> >         2. The shrinkers need to walk the superblock list and pin
> >            the superblock to avoid unmount races with the sb going
> >            away.
> >         3. The dentry cache uses per-superblock LRUs and proportions
> >            reclaim between all the superblocks which means we are
> >            doing breadth based reclaim. This means we touch every
> >            superblock for every shrinker call, and may only reclaim
> >            a single dentry at a time from a given superblock.
> >         4. The inode cache has a global LRU, so it has different
> >            reclaim patterns to the dentry cache, despite the fact
> >            that the dentry cache is generally the only thing that
> >            pins inodes in memory.
> >         5. Filesystems need to register their own shrinkers for
> >            caches and can't co-ordinate them with the dentry and
> >            inode cache shrinkers.
> 
> Nice description, but...  it never actually told us what the benefit of
> the changes are.  Presumably some undescribed workload had some
> undescribed user-visible problem.  But what was that workload, and what
> was the user-visible problem, and how does the patch affect all this?

For UBIFS it wwill give a benefit in terms of simpler UBIFS code - we
now have to keep our own list of UBIFS superblocks, provide locking for
it, and maintain. This is just extra burden. So the item 2 above will be
useful for UBIFS.

-- 
Best Regards,
Artem Bityutskiy (Артём Битюцкий)

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-05-28  7:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-25  8:53 [PATCH 0/5] Per superblock shrinkers V2 Dave Chinner
2010-05-25  8:53 ` [PATCH 1/5] inode: Make unused inode LRU per superblock Dave Chinner
2010-05-26 16:17   ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-26 23:01     ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-27  2:04       ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-27  4:02         ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-27  4:23           ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-27 20:32   ` Andrew Morton
2010-05-27 22:54     ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-28 10:07       ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-25  8:53 ` [PATCH 2/5] mm: add context argument to shrinker callback Dave Chinner
2010-05-25  8:53 ` [PATCH 3/5] superblock: introduce per-sb cache shrinker infrastructure Dave Chinner
2010-05-26 16:41   ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-26 23:12     ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-27  1:53       ` [PATCH 3/5 v2] " Dave Chinner
2010-05-27  4:01         ` Al Viro
2010-05-27  6:17           ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-27  6:46             ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-27  2:19       ` [PATCH 3/5] " Nick Piggin
2010-05-27  4:07         ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-27  4:24           ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-27  6:35   ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-27 22:40     ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-28  5:19       ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-31  6:39         ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-31  7:28           ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-27 20:32   ` Andrew Morton
2010-05-27 23:01     ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-25  8:53 ` [PATCH 4/5] superblock: add filesystem shrinker operations Dave Chinner
2010-05-27 20:32   ` Andrew Morton
2010-05-25  8:53 ` [PATCH 5/5] xfs: make use of new shrinker callout Dave Chinner
2010-05-26 16:44 ` [PATCH 0/5] Per superblock shrinkers V2 Nick Piggin
2010-05-27 20:32 ` Andrew Morton
2010-05-28  0:30   ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-28  7:42   ` Artem Bityutskiy [this message]
2010-07-02 12:13 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-07-12  2:41   ` Dave Chinner
2010-07-12  2:52     ` Christoph Hellwig

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