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From: Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>
To: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH, RFC] simplify writeback thread creation
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 17:21:17 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1278598877.20321.34.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C35C292.9020507@kernel.dk>

On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 14:20 +0200, Jens Axboe wrote:
> On 2010-07-08 00:52, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > Currently the per-bdi writeback thread is only created when there is
> > dirty any dirty data on the BDI, and it lazy exists when it's been
> > unused for some time.
> > 
> > This leads to some very complex code, and the need to keep a forker
> > thread around.
> > 
> > This patch removes all this code and simply creates the thread as part
> > of the bdi registration.  The downside is that we use up ressoures
> > for possible unused devices, although that overhead is rather low,
> > with 8k kernel stack size on x86 and few other, even smaller ressources.
> > 
> > If the overhead is still considered too much I can look into starting
> > the thread explicitly instead of as part of the bdi registration, but
> > that will require a bit of code complexity, too.
> 
> I'm pretty sure this will come back to bite us in the ass... If we are
> going to change the lazy create/exit setup, I would greatly prefer
> doing it at fs mount time (or something to that effect).

How about not starting any thread at all at the bdi registration time,
and start a bdi thread only when something for this bdi becomes dirty
(__mark_inode_dirty()) or a bdi work is queued (bdi_queue_work())? If we
do this, then the tasks can also die by the 5min timeout, and will be
forked again when dirt/bdi works arrives?

I guess it is a bit challenging to start a task in __mark_inode_dirty(),
whis is supposed to be fast and non-sleeping, but we can just submit a
work which will start the task.

-- 
Best Regards,
Artem Bityutskiy (Артём Битюцкий)

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-08 14:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-07 22:52 [PATCH, RFC] simplify writeback thread creation Christoph Hellwig
2010-07-08  7:08 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-07-08 12:20 ` Jens Axboe
2010-07-08 14:21   ` Artem Bityutskiy [this message]
2010-07-08 14:59     ` Jens Axboe
2010-07-08 15:23       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-07-08 17:23         ` Jens Axboe
2010-07-08 18:43           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-07-08 18:48             ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-07-09  7:52               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-07-09  8:16                 ` Jens Axboe
2010-07-09 11:06                   ` Theodore Tso
2010-07-09 14:51                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-07-09 15:49                   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-07-08 13:22 ` Artem Bityutskiy

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