From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, tglx <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/13] writeback: IO-less balance_dirty_pages()
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 14:40:06 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1290087606.2109.1518.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101118132617.GA9307@localhost>
On Thu, 2010-11-18 at 21:26 +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 09:04:34PM +0800, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 12:27 +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > > - avoid useless (eg. zero pause time) balance_dirty_pages() calls
> > > - avoid too small pause time (less than 10ms, which burns CPU power)
> > > - avoid too large pause time (more than 100ms, which hurts responsiveness)
> > > - avoid big fluctuations of pause times
> >
> > If you feel like playing with sub-jiffies timeouts (a way to avoid that
> > HZ=>100 assumption), the below (totally untested) patch might be of
> > help..
>
> Assuming there are HZ=10 users.
>
> - when choosing such a coarse granularity, do they really care about
> responsiveness? :)
No of course not, they usually care about booting their system,.. I've
been told booting Linux on a 10Mhz FPGA is 'fun' :-)
> - will the use of hrtimer add a little code size and/or runtime
> overheads, and hence hurt the majority HZ=100 users?
Yes it will add code and runtime overhead, but it would allow you to
have 1ms timeouts even on a HZ=100 system, as opposed to a 10ms minimum.
Anyway, I'm not saying you should do it, I just wondered if we had the
API, saw we didn't and thought it might be nice to offer it if desired.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-11-18 13:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-17 4:27 [PATCH 00/13] IO-less dirty throttling v2 Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17 4:27 ` [PATCH 01/13] writeback: IO-less balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17 10:34 ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-22 2:01 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17 23:08 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-18 13:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-18 13:26 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-18 13:40 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2010-11-18 14:02 ` Wu Fengguang
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[not found] ` <20101130043735.GA22947@localhost>
[not found] ` <1291156522.32004.1359.camel@laptop>
[not found] ` <1291156765.32004.1365.camel@laptop>
[not found] ` <20101201133818.GA13377@localhost>
2010-12-01 23:03 ` Andrew Morton
2010-12-02 1:56 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-05 16:14 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-06 2:42 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-12-06 9:52 ` Dmitry
2010-12-06 12:34 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-11-17 4:27 ` [PATCH 02/13] writeback: consolidate variable names in balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17 4:27 ` [PATCH 03/13] writeback: per-task rate limit on balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17 14:39 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 10:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-24 10:43 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 10:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 4:27 ` [PATCH 04/13] writeback: prevent duplicate balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited() calls Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17 4:27 ` [PATCH 05/13] writeback: account per-bdi accumulated written pages Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 10:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-24 10:44 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17 4:27 ` [PATCH 06/13] writeback: bdi write bandwidth estimation Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17 23:08 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-17 23:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 23:38 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-17 23:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-18 6:51 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 10:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-24 14:06 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 11:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-24 12:10 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 12:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-24 13:14 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 13:20 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 13:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-24 13:46 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 14:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-24 14:21 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 14:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-24 14:38 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 14:34 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17 4:27 ` [PATCH 07/13] writeback: show bdi write bandwidth in debugfs Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17 4:27 ` [PATCH 08/13] writeback: quit throttling when bdi dirty pages dropped low Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 11:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-24 12:30 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 12:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-24 12:59 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17 4:27 ` [PATCH 09/13] writeback: reduce per-bdi dirty threshold ramp up time Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 11:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-24 12:39 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 12:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 4:27 ` [PATCH 10/13] writeback: make reasonable gap between the dirty/background thresholds Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 11:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-24 12:48 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17 4:27 ` [PATCH 11/13] writeback: scale down max throttle bandwidth on concurrent dirtiers Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17 4:27 ` [PATCH 12/13] writeback: add trace event for balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17 4:41 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17 4:27 ` [PATCH 13/13] writeback: make nr_to_write a per-file limit Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17 23:03 ` [PATCH 00/13] IO-less dirty throttling v2 Andrew Morton
2010-11-18 2:06 ` Dave Chinner
2010-11-18 2:09 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-18 3:21 ` Dave Chinner
2010-11-18 3:34 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-18 7:27 ` Dave Chinner
2010-11-18 7:33 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-19 3:11 ` Dave Chinner
2010-11-24 11:12 ` Avi Kivity
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-11-17 3:58 [PATCH 01/13] writeback: IO-less balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17 4:19 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17 8:33 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17 4:30 ` Wu Fengguang
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