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From: Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: aelder@sgi.com, Nick Piggin <npiggin@kernel.dk>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [announce] vfs-scale git tree update
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 13:17:06 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1294809426.2821.20.camel@perseus> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1294807279.2821.9.camel@perseus>

On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 12:41 +0800, Ian Kent wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-01-11 at 20:06 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > Isn't the parent i_mutex held during mkdir()?
> > 
> > Yes, but a lookup that hits in the dentry cache won't actually take
> > the parent mutex.
> > 
> > So as far as I can tell, doing the "d_add()" before setting d_op can
> > result in another CPU coming in and seeing the newly added dentry
> > before d_op has actually been initialized. Exactly because it will do
> > the dentry lookup without holding any mutex.
> > 
> > Of course, it's a very small window, so it probably doesn't matter in practice.
> > 
> > >> Looking at it quickly, I don't think that would matter for
> > >> the case at hand.  I.e., that might be safer but it doesn't
> > >> address the fact that these fields are getting initialized
> > >> multiple times.
> > >
> > > Yeah, a hangover from changes done over time.
> > > Not setting the dentry op in ->lookup() should fix this.
> > 
> > Alex, care to test just removing the d_set_d_op() call from autofs4_lookup()?
> > 
> > (That code is a bit scary, though - it explicitly makes it a negative
> > dentry with a d_instantiate(dentry, NULL), and then hides the inode
> > information away separately. Scary scary)
> 
> Yeah, but the expire to mount races with autofs are difficult to handle
> and this approach has worked well under heavy stress testing. It's true
> that this would almost certainly be bad for a file system that supported
> a full range of functionality but that's not so for autofs.

I think I have to partly take this back.
With Nick's recent vfs-scale patches this may not be OK any more since
the dcache_lock has gone away and, at first glance, it looks like the
added autofs4_lock spin lock doesn't provide the needed protection.

Ian



  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-12  5:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-07  7:58 [announce] vfs-scale git tree update Nick Piggin
2011-01-11 16:34 ` Alex Elder
2011-01-11 16:51   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-01-11 17:57     ` Alex Elder
2011-01-11 18:13       ` Linus Torvalds
2011-01-12  3:55         ` Nick Piggin
2011-01-12  3:59       ` Ian Kent
2011-01-12  4:06         ` Nick Piggin
2011-01-12  4:06         ` Linus Torvalds
2011-01-12  4:41           ` Ian Kent
2011-01-12  5:17             ` Ian Kent [this message]
2011-01-13  1:01               ` Nick Piggin
2011-01-13  1:48                 ` Ian Kent
2011-01-13  2:14                   ` Nick Piggin
2011-01-13  3:20                     ` Ian Kent
2011-01-13  3:22                       ` Nick Piggin
2011-01-12  4:15         ` Ian Kent
2011-01-12 20:11           ` Alex Elder
2011-01-13  2:23             ` Ian Kent
2011-01-13  3:03               ` Ian Kent
2011-01-13 17:09                 ` Alex Elder
2011-01-12  4:49         ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2011-01-12  5:01           ` Ian Kent
2011-01-13  0:58             ` Nick Piggin
2011-01-13  1:46               ` Ian Kent
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-01-05 10:25 Nick Piggin
2011-01-05 21:00 ` Anca Emanuel
2010-12-22  9:53 Nick Piggin
2010-12-22 10:22 ` Sedat Dilek
2010-12-22 10:38 ` Sedat Dilek

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