From: Ian Kent <raven-PKsaG3nR2I+sTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
To: Al Viro <viro-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Trond Myklebust
<Trond.Myklebust-HgOvQuBEEgTQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
David Howells <dhowells-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
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Andrew Morton
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Fixes for vfs-scale and vfs-automount
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 14:34:20 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1298529260.2916.91.camel@perseus> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110224035836.GS22723-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
On Thu, 2011-02-24 at 03:58 +0000, Al Viro wrote:
>
> Anyway, I wonder why you care about __d_lookup_rcu() and ->d_inode stability;
> d_mountpoint() _is_ stable at that point (we hold vfsmount_lock) and you
> don't seem to look at ->d_inode at all in RCU case. Note that ->d_automount()
> is never called in RCU case at all; nor is ->lookup() and friends, so you
> really only have ->d_manage() to cope with, what with autofs4 having no
> ->d_revalidate() anymore.
It does now but it doesn't do a whole lot, just checks for a negative
dentry, returning false, and drops out of RCU mode when the dentry isn't
selected or being checked for expiry yet.
Indeed, I shouldn't need to care about it and checking for it doesn't
seem to do a whole lot.
I've seen walks fail with a dentry that has gone away (ie. I'm walking
in a tree that is being expired, they seem to be trees with no actual
mount at their base), which should be because I'm not catching the block
request at a higher level dentry. Unfortunately, including a check for
the base dentry in __follow_mount_rcu(), regardless of it being a
mountpoint, doesn't always catch the need to block either. That the tree
is being selected for expire is probably because the expire can't detect
a walk within the mount tree when the walker is between the
__d_lookup_rcu() and __follow_mount_rcu() calls. Jumping out of rcu-walk
mode in an added revalidate reduces the possibility of this happening
(assuming walks are sneaking in between dropping and acquiring the
vfsmount_lock) but doesn't eliminate it.
At this point I loop back to the trying to work out why a reference gets
picked up and the cycle repeats with various small changes to the
overall approach.
Actually, it's not just the root of a mount that is getting an extra
reference either. When I notice a root dentry has picked up a reference
(from a printk) and SIGKILL everything and start umounting manually I
get to a point in the tree where I need to umount autofs mounts twice,
which usually means nothing more than a get/put mismatch somewhere, but
in that case I normally don't see a root dentry pick up a reference.
That's confusing me too.
>
> BTW, Nick has moved to kernel.dk; whether he's still reachable there is
> a question, though - he seems to have disappeared since mid-January.
Yeah, I've forwarded a couple of messages where I forgot to change the
email. A few emails back Nick said he was following the thread anyway.
Ian
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-02-24 6:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-01-18 4:05 [PATCH 0/3] Fixes for vfs-scale and vfs-automount Ian Kent
2011-01-18 4:06 ` [PATCH 1/3] autofs4 - fix get_next_positive_dentry() Ian Kent
2011-01-18 4:06 ` [PATCH 2/3] vfs - fix dentry ref count in do_lookup() Ian Kent
2011-01-18 4:44 ` Al Viro
2011-01-18 4:06 ` [PATCH 3/3] autofs4 - fix debug print in autofs4_lookup() Ian Kent
2011-01-19 7:06 ` [PATCH 0/3] Fixes for vfs-scale and vfs-automount Ian Kent
2011-02-15 14:25 ` Ian Kent
2011-02-23 7:22 ` Ian Kent
2011-02-23 16:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-02-24 1:58 ` Al Viro
2011-02-24 3:03 ` Ian Kent
2011-02-24 3:14 ` Al Viro
[not found] ` <20110224031439.GR22723-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-24 3:28 ` Ian Kent
2011-02-24 3:58 ` Al Viro
2011-02-24 5:47 ` Al Viro
2011-02-24 7:23 ` Ian Kent
[not found] ` <20110224035836.GS22723-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-24 6:34 ` Ian Kent [this message]
2011-02-24 7:07 ` Al Viro
[not found] ` <20110224070724.GW22723-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-24 10:07 ` Ian Kent
2011-02-24 14:59 ` Al Viro
2011-02-24 15:18 ` Al Viro
2011-02-25 3:07 ` Ian Kent
2011-02-24 19:10 ` Al Viro
2011-02-24 10:21 ` Ian Kent
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